Things you wish you could say

[Peas4Ducks]

Why do people feel like they should have the right to free range their birds whenever and however they want, and then their immediate reaction to predation is to try to figure out how to kill the predator?? I understand that losing birds is emotional and frustrating, but I have seen BYC members describe doing some truly horrific and inhumane things to foxes, coyotes, raccoons, possums, hawks--you name it. It makes me feel so sick and sad. Maybe this isn't the right place for this, but it's really been weighing on me and there's not really any other place in the forum to vent about it.

 

[Bakbuk]

Why do people feel like they should have the right to free range their birds whenever and however they want, and then their immediate reaction to predation is to try to figure out how to kill the predator?? I understand that losing birds is emotional and frustrating, but I have seen BYC members describe doing some truly horrific and inhumane things to foxes, coyotes, raccoons, possums, hawks--you name it. It makes me feel so sick and sad. Maybe this isn't the right place for this, but it's really been weighing on me and there's not really any other place in the forum to vent about it.

I feel this SO much.

 

[Ascholten]

What would you suggest they do with the predator then? Buy extra chickens so they can feed it too? Predators need to die, period, otherwise they will eventually take your entire flock down. Well predator proof your pen, is a quick easy answer to shout out, but sometimes that also, is not as easy to do as one makes it sound. The person may also be on a limited budget, and 50 cents for a 22 LR round is a lot cheaper than 1000 dollars for a concrete floor on their chicken run.

But on that, I totally agree, if you have to kill something, you MUST be humane about it, it's not right, nor legal really, to intentionally make an animal suffer.

Back to the subject of taking predators. Things like hawks, if you get caught killing one of those w/o the proper permits, they'll throw you under the jail for that.

Peas this IS the right place for it, you are frustrated, and are venting your frustrations, so vent away!

Aaron

 

[aart]

Peas this IS the right place for it, you are frustrated, and are venting your frustrations, so vent away!

Why don't you just let them vent, instead of long replies to every rant?

 

[Ascholten]

So, I am not allowed to vent too? I thought this was a place where people could talk freely, yet you seem to get all bent every time I say something. If you dislike me so much, then why don't you just click the ignore button like mentioned so many times. I was under the impression people could discuss freely here, not I want to throw a tantrum and nobody better say anything about it. Part of the venting process is not to just throw a childish tantrum, as you seem to want, but to speak with others, possibly glean alternative viewpoints into something that may be bothering you. Maybe something was misunderstood. Maybe other people are experiencing the same frustration you are and someone may have an idea that can help the venter better cope. How to know if everyone is afraid to speak to each other? The corollary may be, if you are going to say something in a PUBLIC forum, then don't be shocked if someone REPLIES in that PUBLIC forum.

So lets play your way.

Totally new subtopic. My rant / vent:

I get tired of people who complain every time someone says something about getting rid of predators, like it's such a horrible thing to want to keep your pets safe. Why do we live in homes and not in the wilds with predators? Why do we lock our doors? To protect that which we care for. Why is it a horrible thing to want to protect our pets too?

I ask a valid question, yet nobody seems to have an answer. If we are not to kill predators, then what ARE we supposed to do with them? They are not going to just magically go away because we wish them to? You can predator proof a ton but some things, like coons are pretty darned smart and figure out how to get past many predator proofings.

Honest Question:
If you don't like people killing predators, then what valid alternative solution do you have that they could use instead? Some things are too smart for traps, so how to get rid of them or protect your flock from them?

Wait, never mind don't answer, we are not allowed to. Forgot those new rules.

Aaron

 

[Tre3hugger]

@Ascholten, my firend, if 10+ people "like" the post suggesting you step back in the thread, and 0 zero "like" the post of you justifying your presence in the thread...maybe a reevaluation to your approach to the thread is appropriate? Just an observation from an outside observer.

 

[Ascholten]

Then again, this forum is world wide, people don't all get to it at the same time. It can take days for our entire populace to see a thread. So if you are throwing a hissy and get 10 of your cancel culture I am going to agree with anything betty says friends to try to ratio me, Yes there ARE clans in this forum, does that really count?

I can observe patterns too.

Aaron

 

[Tre3hugger]

Then again, this forum is world wide, people don't all get to it at the same time. It can take days for our entire populace to see a thread. So if you are throwing a hissy and get 10 of your cancel culture I am going to agree with anything betty says friends to try to ratio me, Yes there ARE clans in this forum, does that really count?

I can observe patterns too.

Aaron

lol yup just another big snowflake conspiracy. whatevs man. Enjoy the forum

 

[tripletfeb]

Ok, here is another rant from me. Stop arguing about something so stupid. Maybe shut up and take a step back, you are not always right

 

[EverythingDucks]

Be kind