Thinking of moving, but WHERE???

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I don't get it. Are you allergic?

Yeah, last time I went to Ark to visit family (TONS of pine and cedar) and forgot to take the meds I came back to Texas with ear infections in both ears, a sinus infection, an upper respiratory infection, and my tonsils were the size of golf balls (only about a 1/2" from sealing off my throat) ... could be worse. I could be allergic to wheat, milk, etc. Pine I can avoid.
 
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Think that's Heaven? Nope.... it's Iowa.
But, the snow storm is a-coming, right now.... so I can't help you with the snow thing.
 
I live IN Canada about half an hour north of Lake Ontario and it's not THAT cold here. I used to live in town right on Lake Ontario (a 15 minute walk). Up where I am now we get as low as - 25 most of the time in the winter, but our winter doesn't start until around the end of November and most times early to mid December (we only just got snow! and the coldest it's been is -7... and we're north of the Lake! which is traditionally colder!). We're not at ALL religious and we live in some pretty deep countryside with a enormous population of OLD families... from like... the origination of many of the towns around here. We've found we've been accepted pretty well by our neighbours and most people are very nice in the smaller communities. Occasionally you get some rude people who are either just up for hunting or naturally unkind but that's not very common.

When we moved in, we were the horse people from the city (We had horses before moving to the country) and our long time cow farmer neighbour brought over cookies and plowed our driveway and welcomed us right away.

That house you're looking at? Is a GREAT deal for that much land. We paid $161,000 for 8 acres with a fixer-upper 1860s farm house, unuseable barn, and no fences. Does the house have a woodstove? If it does, the cold won't matter much to you! We don't have a woodstove yet (someone took it out in the 80s, but we're putting one back in in the next couple years). Woodstoves are worth their weight in gold.

To give you the itch, it's December 8th and it only just snowed out yesterday. We only have about 2 or 3 inches of snow, it's ONLY -5 Celcius out and very sunny. Only one of my horses is wearing a blanket and thats only a waterproof turnout shell and she has arthritis! (I bought her a new midweight blanket for the winter but she doesn't need it yet and won't until about January).

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And when it's too cold to go out? You drink hot chocolate and eat yummy gingerbread cookies and just relax!

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And these are from around October... How could you not love the countryside? And you'll be so close to the border here if you ever need a vacation, Ontario is very nice in the summer
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Look, even my wimpy chickens came out in the snow!

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ETA: House Size: 1300 Sq. Ft (town says we're 2000 but the whole upstairs is in the eaves). 3+1 fairly large bedrooms (the one downstairs is actually a family room with propane fireplace but my dad was diagnosed with cancer 10 years ago and has a defecit on his right side and finds stairs a chore sometimes), 1.5 bathrooms, Office, HUGE eat in kitchen, Purpose built laundry room. 1860's farm house 2 layer brick on one side, wood on the other. With a crawl space and cellar. Forced air oil heating and baseboard heaters. Propane stove/fireplace.

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I live IN Canada about half an hour north of Lake Ontario and it's not THAT cold here. I used to live in town right on Lake Ontario (a 15 minute walk). Up where I am now we get as low as - 25 most of the time in the winter, but our winter doesn't start until around the end of November and most times early to mid December (we only just got snow! and the coldest it's been is -7... and we're north of the Lake! which is traditionally colder!). We're not at ALL religious and we live in some pretty deep countryside with a enormous population of OLD families... from like... the origination of many of the towns around here. We've found we've been accepted pretty well by our neighbours and most people are very nice in the smaller communities. Occasionally you get some rude people who are either just up for hunting or naturally unkind but that's not very common.

When we moved in, we were the horse people from the city (We had horses before moving to the country) and our long time cow farmer neighbour brought over cookies and plowed our driveway and welcomed us right away.

That house you're looking at? Is a GREAT deal for that much land. We paid $161,000 for 8 acres with a fixer-upper 1860s farm house, unuseable barn, and no fences. Does the house have a woodstove? If it does, the cold won't matter much to you! We don't have a woodstove yet (someone took it out in the 80s, but we're putting one back in in the next couple years). Woodstoves are worth their weight in gold.

To give you the itch, it's December 8th and it only just snowed out yesterday. We only have about 2 or 3 inches of snow, it's ONLY -5 Celcius out and very sunny. Only one of my horses is wearing a blanket and thats only a waterproof turnout shell and she has arthritis! (I bought her a new midweight blanket for the winter but she doesn't need it yet and won't until about January).

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And when it's too cold to go out? You drink hot chocolate and eat yummy gingerbread cookies and just relax!

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I want to come live with you, please.
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Hubby is from Long Island
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I don't like cold and after a 1.5 year stint in Atlanta and a 5.5 year stint in Chicagoland I never want to live in a big city again.
I lived in Upstate SC from high school through 2 degrees, it's nice, the whole place shuts down when it snows but from what I remember the property taxes on your cars is murder, though that was 10 years ago. I was paying $400 every year for taxes/tag on my dinky little car and when we moved to Atlanta it was only $75. If you look around Pickens, Central, Easley, Liberty, etc the cost of living is decent and Greenville is close enough to commute for work/school. Clemson University is close by too (can't help the plug, I'm an alumni). There is a more conservative baptist feeling there, I think one of the little towns out there still holds the record for churches per capita but the closer you are to the university or Greenville, the more open mined people are. There's also an awesome microbrew community in Greenville.
Lots of things to do all year round, you'd be within a short drive of the Blueridge Mountains, the lakes in the upstate are nice, awesome fall festivals everywhere and then there's the Greek festival in Greenville. Tablerock is the place to camp, we went every summer. Fishing is great. There is a decent sized organic community up there, at least there was before I left.


As much as I like Texas and living in the middle of nowhere, if I couldn't stay here I'd be going back in a heartbeat. But if you don't mind it a little warm.... I live just 3 blocks in from city hall on .32 acres, cost $90,000 for the house, Taxes are around $1600 every year and this is one of the more expensive areas out here. If you get property, you can file homestead exemptions on your taxes as long as you have livestock and you can sell hunting leases for the winter. Inside the city limits where I live people still have livestock in their back yards. One of my neighbors has goats and they only own an acre. All legal!

ETA: House size!! 3 beds, 2 baths, one car garage, brick, Though we are going to be taking in that garage and opening up the kitchen in the next year or so.
 
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Five years ago when the real estate market was good, we moved from a nice house on a fifth acre in Central NJ to a nice house on 40 acres in Southwest MO. We went from $5000 in taxes to $500. We paid cash for our property, so we wouldn't have a mortgage. We paid off all of our credit cards and other debts. And managed to put some money in the bank for the first time ever.
We went from a salary of $70,000+ a year to less than $25000 or so. Without debt, we don't need the higher salary anymore.
What we did not do on purpose, but, accidently discovered, was by reducing our salary, our children qualified for more financial aid for college.

I do miss the culture and diversity that NJ offered, but, I finally get to see the Milky Way at night.
Dale-Ann
 
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