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This is SO Odd! Reproduction/Genetics....Explanation?

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by speckledhen, Nov 3, 2008.

  1. speckledhen

    speckledhen Intentional Solitude Premium Member 11 Years

    Wasn't sure which section to put this one in, so you guys can move it if need be.
    Over the past year or so, I have sent my Lt. Brahma, Miranda's eggs to people, to incubate and none ever developed. I got suspicious and incubated maybe three sets of five eggs each, all hers, to see if they would ever develop into chicks. None ever did, though the bullseye was plain to see in ones I did crack open. Till the last few months, Miranda had been with the Blue Orps, led by Suede. So was the Buff Brahma, Caroline. Her eggs developed fine; in fact, the chicks were very vigorous and my own Glenda is Caroline's daughter with Suede. I decided that Miranda had some genetic abnormality that prevented her eggs from turning into chicks.
    A couple weeks ago, I sent BluRoo in Florida a set of BR eggs and on a whim, I asked if she would incubate just one of Miranda's, that I hadn't tried in ages. Miranda is now in the laying flock with Dutch and Mace, my BR roosters. I wanted to see if anything had changed. Lo and behold, Miranda's egg is developing!! [​IMG] I cant believe this. Is it possible that Miranda and Suede's physiology just didn't mesh somehow? Have any of you breeders ever heard of this?
    Last edited: Nov 3, 2008
  2. lockedhearts

    lockedhearts It's All About Chicken Math

    Apr 29, 2007
    Although I am a virtual dummy on chicken genetics, I do know that sometimes in horses their are genes that don't mesh and can cause abortion, birth defects and death of the foal shortly after birth, with that said, I would think it is highly possible that this may be happening inthis case.
    I would think that this type of thing would be rare in chickens but that it can happen.
  3. Hangin Wit My Peeps

    Hangin Wit My Peeps AutumnBreezeChickens.com

    Apr 20, 2008
    Birnamwood, Wisconsin
    This is very interesting. Maybe they are more like humans than we think...some humans don't match well and cannot have children maybe it's the same with animals. [​IMG] I HOPE that baby hatches and if it does you will have to share lots of pictures If your able to get some. GOOD LUCK!
  4. the1much

    the1much Currently Birdless Hippy

    send me 48 of her eggs and let me see if its true she's fertile murtle now [​IMG]

  5. austinhart123

    austinhart123 Songster

    Mar 12, 2008
    Los Angeles CA
    im sure its possible
  6. hcammack

    hcammack Crowing

    Oct 5, 2007
    congrats to miranda for her first developing embryo ! That is very intresting though because the suedanator only had a few ladies so he must have been breeding her!

  7. Katy

    Katy Flock Mistress

    Maybe they just didn't like each other? Hard to get romantic with someone you don't like!!
  8. the1much

    the1much Currently Birdless Hippy

    Quote:ya,,,, but after a while you get used to it :|

    sorry spackledhen [​IMG] its 1 of those nights hehe [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
  9. RickiHupp

    RickiHupp Songster

    Sep 24, 2008
    Newark, Ohio
    Quote:ya,,,, but after a while you get used to it :|

    sorry spackledhen [​IMG] its 1 of those nights hehe [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Well that was my laugh of the day!!!
  10. speckledhen

    speckledhen Intentional Solitude Premium Member 11 Years

    No, there were definite bullseyes on her eggs (the many we just ate for breakfast). Suede had no problem with the other three girls he had at the time, so I really think it must have been the combination of Suede and Miranda that was a dud. All the while, I thought it was just that Miranda had the problem. Jim, I'll be glad to send you some of the BR/Lt. Brahma eggs some day if you really want them. I'm just happy that she really can be a mommy!

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