Thoughts on Universal healthcare

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thats because you live in Canada...
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thats because you live in Canada...
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yes yr right..

hey if we keep this conversation up i may get to my 1000th post soon....then I can celebrate with everyone...lol
 
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geeze you sure are worried about loosing your guns...

I am too....take the guns away from the good people only the bad people will have them.
 
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I have a friend who's son had spastic CP
all his meds and supplies are covered (gov health care VIA disability allowance)
she just got a track lift system installed in her house because he is to big for her to lift in and out of his wheelchair. (the march of dimes)
she has nursing care that comes in 3X a week to access him and bathe him and any dressings he may need (gov health care)
all of this was provided by either the government funded health care that we all have in Ontario or a service agency..

Thank you for the info
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We just added a room/bathroom for Gabe, and also installed the track system....BCBS fought that one at first-saying we didn't go with "their" provider...this *was* the only provider in the state of SD; I ended up filing a dispute, and the second time around, they pulled through. We still had to pay about $2000, but it was still better then $6500.
 
I have been for counselling 3 times and it is not on my primary healthcare record. I saw someone privately as this service is not available in my area. Also trained cousellors are trained not to keep detailed records on clients and the only person who can insist on access to these kind of records is a policeman. Not a politician.

Secret Service, CIA, FBI, US Marshals, BATF are all Police controlled by politicians. LBJ used to read reports of citizens sex lives, acquired by the FBI, for bedtime reading. Police or politicians have no business in snooping into private medical records, and history shows us if they can they will. The Patriot Act will be small compared to the intrusions that come from government control of medical records. Anytime a citizen voices their freedom of speech they will find themselves investigated and humiliated. The way that Joe the Plumber was. Charges are now being brought against one government employee responsible but the damage was already done. Government intrusion is used to squelch our most important right Freedom of Speech.​
 
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Very much so, and he is not alone. In this country gun ownership is a right, not a privilege. Over 200 years ago the people of this country rose up and revolted mainly because of high taxes and an unresponsive and oppressive government. Gun ownership was written into the constitution as a right just in case the people had to rise up again. No, I don't have visions of the current government sending jackbooted thugs to kick my door in tomorrow, but I don't know what the future holds. Gun rights need to be protected so that future generations will be able to stand up and defend themselves. But enough about guns. Back to healthcare. I loath socialism and government intrusion. They can stay out of my pocket and out of my healthcare. They certainly don't need access to my heath records.
 
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This is America, politicians have access to allot that they are not suppose to be into.

Watch the news sometime.

Sorry Jolly Acres,

I am not in the US, I do apologise. I do know that even in the UK we are very concerned about Data Protection.

the use of crdit details is used a lot here I think. no knowledge just a hunch really, but this all comes from private companies they have not accessed health records yet. We will fight that one.

I am trained as a counsellor myself, so I know that we are told not to keep detailed notes on people. Plus we are professionally covered by data protection, so we would be in really bigtrouble if we gave out details on anyone to anyone.

The only rule is that we have to reveal any info we have to the police if asked.
 
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I'm always confused when Americans start spouting off about how "free" they are. In what way, specifically, are we any more "free" than England, Canada, France, etc.?

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This is one thing that gives us Americans far less actual freedom than the citizens of Canada, England, France, etc.

Our system of healthcare tied to employment was designed by the rich to keep the working class working.

Mr. Proletariate says, "You want to get all uppity and start your own business, silly dreamer? You'd better be very healthy and get rich before you get sick, or you'll come crawling back to Wal*Mart for the bennies!"

And you all buy into it because you're brainwashed into thinking that you're so "free" and that everyone else is not.
 
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Secret Service, CIA, FBI, US Marshals, BATF are all Police controlled by politicians. LBJ used to read reports of citizens sex lives, acquired by the FBI, for bedtime reading. Police or politicians have no business in snooping into private medical records, and history shows us if they can they will. The Patriot Act will be small compared to the intrusions that come from government control of medical records. Anytime a citizen voices their freedom of speech they will find themselves investigated and humiliated. The way that Joe the Plumber was. Charges are now being brought against one government employee responsible but the damage was already done. Government intrusion is used to squelch our most important right Freedom of Speech.

I understand and share your concern ... really I do see where you are coing from. Maybe we are naieve here in the UK. I know it is a very serious issue, and I do agree with you. That is why many people here are now afraid that the government is putting so many private companies in on our systems. They have proved to be so unworthy of thetrust so far. like the Driver and Vehicle Licence Authority. they are selling our details to others.

Privacy has always been respected here in the past but that is changing. Scary .
 
When the CPT and DX codes are submitted to the government to pay your bill, they know exactly what is wrong with you and what treatment you are undergoing. There is no privacy once they get their hands on those "little" details.
 
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