Tiny flock of 2 in England!

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Hello - subscribing in the hope of learning more and getting advice from those far more experienced than I!

We have had a little mini "flock" of hybrid hens, as pets and layers only, for about 18 months. We've been through the standard beginners errors (2nd hand coop with a mite infestation) and disasters (split vent and a very poorly chicken that we had to say goodbye to).

But things have settled down nicely and until 3 days ago we had just the 2 layers, Beyonce (a noisy, feisty black rock) and Patricia (a shy, nervous light sussex). They live in our garden, in a large roofless pen about 4m x 3m with a secure coop and 2 nesting boxes attached.

Sadly, wily Mr Fox struck very early one morning and killed poor Patty, who had ventured out. It's a long story, but although Beyonce did her best to alert us with her loudest crowing, we were too late. Pats was unmarked and still warm, but dead.

Worried about Beyonce being left alone, uncharacteristically anxious after the fox attack, we have hurriedly sourced her a new companion to replace Patty. I found a supplier who had some light sussex hens at point of lay, about 16 weeks old, so off I went today to collect her.

Really quite relaxed about all the drama, Barbara (I really must stop allowing my stepchildren to name our chickens, the speckled hen we lost was called Gary) was settling in rather well this afternoon, even venturing out for some food.

On the basis that we were only introducing her to one other chicken, and coming from a reputable breeder who only supplies vaccinated and mite free birds, we haven't "medically" quarantined her. The breeder warned that there could be some ructions and arguments at first, but as a pair rather than a flock they should settle down quickly.

And then, my horrible terrier - who is totally accustomed to the hens roaming free and studiously ignores them - developed a sudden keen interest in Babs, stuck her face in the open pen and caused Babs to rush up the ramp into the coop, bump her head, and knock a nobble off her comb which then bled profusely.

*Sigh* Poor dog management on my part, I never thought she would notice that it was a different white feathered thing. So...I now have not just a new hen that Beyonce might bully, but a new hen with an injured comb. I've cleaned her up as best I can and it stopped bleeding quickly, but I have nothing around to readily use as antiseptic (other than human stuff like savlon etc), and also my capacity to segregate her properly is limited. For now, Beyonce is free in the garden and Babs is confined to barracks - for tonight, I've already settled Babs into a small carrier with plenty of straw in a sheltered end of the inner secure pen, and I'll shut Beyonce in the coop overnight by herself. At least it's not cold here tonight.

So that's my introduction - hi everyone, I'm a rubbish chicken keeper, all advice gratefully received! Will it really be a month of trying to keep them separate, until Babs heals? What should I treat it with? Will Beyonce hurt Babs? What can I do to make it better?!

Thank you...
 
Hi :welcome From Yorkshire UK

Glad you could join the flock! Wow that's quite an intro there!! Don't beat yourself up about things, it's happened to us all. I know I've made my fair share of mistakes but it's how we learn and get on with things. Boy those foxes are sneaky!! I've had this happen to me and it came back so please do keep them secure as it may come back during the day. Right now they are feeding Cubs and will take more chances even coming out in the day for food to feed the young.
Sorry you lost Patty :hugs

Can you so seperate them by wire so they can see but not get to each other untill Bans is a little more healed? Keeping the area clean is most important right now especially with the warm weather we are having.

Good luck with them and I hope that fox keeps away from them.

Enjoy BYC :frow
 
Thank you, oh yes sorry I am prone to rambling haha!

I was very sad about little Pats, I was willing her back to life when I picked her up in my arms. We did indeed spot the fox heading back to the run to collect the body about 30 mins later, although it was still only about 5am - my husband scared her away. That's interesting but worrying news to me, that she could come back during the day - I thought they were safe then!

It's crazy, we live on top of a huge commercial game shoot and there are around 4000 pheasant poults readily roaming the fields - the foxes don't normally bother with our birds (our neighbours have had ducks and chickens for years with only isolated fox sightings). We are aware that the risk increases when they've visited once, so we're being cautious.

Yes I can certainly keep Yonce out in the garden and Babs in the run for a bit. I can see the wound more clearly now, it's pretty minor - I didn't want to mess her about too much more today, she's had a stressful time, maybe tomorrow I'll give it a good clean with some salt water and find something suitable to put on it. Poor girl.

Tonight was a song and dance but one way or another Yonce is in the coop, and Babs is snuggled in a half closed carrier at the end of the fully secure run (not the open one).

Hopefully poor Babs will heal quickly and find a way to get on with bossy Yonce :)
 
Oh yes they are a real pain and will certainly come back and at any time of the day right now. My other half runs a small pheasant and partridge shoot in our village and he has one of those trail cams he set up to see what they are doing. They are out day and night right now after food. He's shot no end round us as soon as you get rid of some more are moving in. Some are being released after aparant rehabilitation.
 
Oh gosh, really? They were shooting last night, and my husband admitted to laying in wait at an upstairs window between 3 and 5am this morning with an air rifle, waiting for a fox to pitch up...lunatic. Not an effective means of despatch I know, he won't use it - he's just avenging Pats psychologically ;)
 
I had mine on fox watch after the attack on my birds. Was out with the shotgun laying in wait during the night!! Had been out then came to bed. Heard something outside and went running out with just his pants on ready to despatch it. Was quite a sight I have to say :gig

Caught it sneaking back in a few nights later and he got it.
 
When chickens free range they are more likely to be killed by predators, than if they stayed within a secure, covered run. It gets down to what amount of loss is acceptable to you. I've heard foxes are the main predator in England. I know they are great at digging, climbing and jumping. They are persistent and do move around freely during day and night in the 45 years I have lived here.

So sorry one took your hen. The fox will keeping coming back looking for more. Even if you shoot/trap it, more will take it's place. Are you allowed to use electrified fencing around the perimeter of your coop and run? That could help to persuade foxes to go to the next farm instead of yours.
 
Amused at the image of a man in pants bearing a shotgun. :)

About the electric fencing, yes we can and indeed we did initially, with the original run - we had a smaller but fully enclosed run with a coop inside, and we had electric fencing around it - but they still free ranged in the garden during the day, put themselves to bed at night and we popped down and closed the door. Then we'd let them out again first thing.

I think we just got complacent - the electric fence was never connected, sometimes the gate didn't get shut, so they came and went as they pleased for a year without incident. We also changed the run, the original was a bit of eyesore so we removed it and started again with a more aesthetically pleasing pen (to spare the rest of my garden, destructive little critters) and new coop.

But there you go, the pheasants must be thinning out now and I guess if there are cubs to feed, the foxes will get braver. Thanks for the education on that, I wouldn't have known!

So far so good this morning, Babs popped out of her lonely box pretty chipper with aa minor scab on her head. Although Beyonce is warbling and squawking at her a bit, my husband just let them out together (he doesn't pay any attention to my waffling on about keeping them separate due to the injury, what do I know) they have shared some food and water this morning. When I left they were foraging side by side. Fingers crossed!
 

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