To worm or not to worm that is the question.

[casportpony]

For those without a vet:

Poop Tests - Veterinary Parasitology Laboratory​

Just mail in your poop sample!

 

[Glenda Heywoodo]

I went on line to read what the
Wazine company says about,
their saying:
not to eat eggs from Wazine wormed hens
IE:
do not feed to laying hens.
HERE IS SOME OF WHAT I READ:
The medicated water should be consumed in 1 day or less. Worming every 30 days is necessary to break the large roundworm life cycle.
TURKEYS - Under 12 weeks of age: for each 100 birds, use 2
fluid ounces (60 ml) of Wazine-17 in 2 U.S. gallons (7.6 liters) of drinking water.

Over 12 weeks of age: for each 100 birds, use 4 fluid ounces (120 ml) of Wazine-17 in 4 U.S. gallons (15 liters) of drinking water.
Worm turkeys at 4-6 weeks of age and thereafter at 30 days, or as needed.
CHICKENS - 4 to 6 weeks of age: for each 100 birds, use 1 fluid ounce (30 ml) of Wazine-17 in 1 U.S. gallon (3.8 liters) of drinking water.
Over 6 weeks of age: for each 100 birds, use 2 fluid ounces (60 ml) of Wazine-17 in 2 U.S. gallons (7.6 liters) of drinking water.
Treat broilers at 4 weeks of age and thereafter at 30 days, or as needed. Treat replacement pullets at 8, 12, and 16 weeks of age.
SWINE - For each 100 pounds (45.5 kilograms) of herd weight: give 1 fluid ounce (30 ml) of Wazine-17 per U.S. gallon (3.8 liters) of drinking water. Treat sows and gilts breeding and up to 2 weeks before farrowing, treat boars at any time, and treat pigs 1 week after weaning and every 30 days thereafter.
Warning

Do not medicate prior to slaughter within 14 days for turkeys and chickens and 21 days for swine. Do not use in chickens producing eggs for human consumption.
Restricted Drug - use only as directed

 

[Glenda Heywoodo]

<Wazine-17 Caution

Keep Out Of Reach Of Children. For Animal Use Only. Do not give to sick, feverish, underweight or physically weak birds or animals. Consult your veterinarian for assistance in the diagnosis, treatment and control of parasitism.

Store above 32°F (0°C)

Directions

One-half pint (8 fluid ounces) of provides 1 treatment for:


400 turkeys up to 12 weeks of age

32 25-lb. (11.4 kg) pigs


200 turkeys over 12 weeks of age

16 50-lb. (22.7 kg) pigs


800 chickens 4-6 weeks of age

8 100-lb. (45.5 kg) pigs


400 over 6 weeks of age

4 200-lb. (90.9 kg) pigs


One pint (16 fluid ounces) of provides 1 treatment for:


800 turkeys up to 12 weeks of age

64 25-lb. (11.4 kg) pigs


400 turkeys over 12 weeks of age

32 50-lb. (22.7 kg) pigs


1600 chickens 4-6 weeks of age

16 100-lb. (45.5 kg) pigs


800 over 6 weeks of age

8 200-lb. (90.9 kg) pigs


For best results, remove water in the evening (except during hot weather). Then, early the next morning, begin water medicated with Wazine-17. Provide medicated water only, distributed in waterers sufficient in number so that all birds or animals have access to water. The medicated water should be consumed in 1 day or less. Worming every 30 days is necessary to break the large roundworm life cycle.

 

[Bridebeliever]

Since this was a "worm or not to worm" thread I thought I would share my newbie experience. (I've been in chickens for a whopping year and a half.)
I noticed worms in some droppings in my coop back in October. (I keep an immaculate coop, 12 chickens and it's cleaned daily.) I decided to let it go and not do anything and keep up me daily cleaning of course. I saw worms in poop for about 3 weeks then poof, no more worms. Clearly since I clean every day I'm always inspecting poop. So it did resolve with no intervention. I think if I kept a dirty coop and only cleaned once a week or less I might have had to do something because it would've spread to other chickens. But I guess you don't always have to hit the big guns. It was my own little experiment and I'm not opposed to medicating when needed.

 

[Beekissed]

Since this was a "worm or not to worm" thread I thought I would share my newbie experience. (I've been in chickens for a whopping year and a half.)
I noticed worms in some droppings in my coop back in October. (I keep an immaculate coop, 12 chickens and it's cleaned daily.) I decided to let it go and not do anything and keep up me daily cleaning of course. I saw worms in poop for about 3 weeks then poof, no more worms. Clearly since I clean every day I'm always inspecting poop. So it did resolve with no intervention. I think if I kept a dirty coop and only cleaned once a week or less I might have had to do something because it would've spread to other chickens. But I guess you don't always have to hit the big guns. It was my own little experiment and I'm not opposed to medicating when needed.

What an interesting take on it!

Do your chickens free range, by any chance? I've never seen any worms or eggs in the stool of my free range flocks, nor in the intestines when butchering them, so am thinking they are finding their own parasite control out there, like saw grass, which I do find in the gizzards at times when I butcher.

I've always wondered about such a thing....if one sees worms, they are being expelled for some reason. Like when one sees worms in a dog's stool or such after one would give a wormer....could be, if the chickens are free ranged, they have treated their own parasites by consuming something that would help with that.

 

[Glenda Heywoodo]

I've had some live for many years without de-worming. If they're fat and healthy with worms they're probably okay to eat.

-Kathy

What does that statement mean?
I butchered thousands of chickens and if any had worms or any other inside cancerous conditions.
(old hens are especially prone to cancerous parts in the cavity of the back bone next to the area where the eggs a produced by the hen).
or if they did not look healthy.
THEN I THREW AWAY THE CHICKENS BODY PERIOD.

Eating heavily infested chicken meat is not good for your own body to absorb.
This is the first I read this post surely was a mistake and error of typing.

 

[Bridebeliever]

What an interesting take on it!    Do your chickens free range, by any chance?  I've never seen any worms or eggs in the stool of my free range flocks, nor in the intestines when butchering them, so am thinking they are finding their own parasite control out there, like saw grass, which I do find in the gizzards at times when I butcher. 

I've always wondered about such a thing....if one sees worms, they are being expelled for some reason.  Like when one sees worms in a dog's stool or such after one would give a wormer....could be, if the chickens are free ranged, they have treated their own parasites by consuming something that would help with that. 

Yes, they do free range in a forest area. Not a lot of grass in there but I always see them pulling moss off the trees and eating that and I also see them eating young fern plants but not the older ferns.

 

[Glenda Heywoodo]

That's great Kathy! I know you have been a wealth of information on these boards to hundreds of people...so have I missed your position on this? Wazine and you never get to eat the eggs again, pumpkin seeds and you aren't doing anything and finally, too much garlic and you can poison them! What's a little chicken keeper like me to do?

I totally agree with BRIDEBELIEVER here.
If a person wants to insure you have a healthy flock.
then use the additives like DIATOMACEOUS EARTH or Cayenne peppers
and during the fall feed the pumpkin seeds to the chickens.
none of which will hurt the chickens either just give good health to their bodies.

Basically Wazine17 is still being used with 17 to 24 days not eating the eggs.
but most chicken keepers need to help them selves to find additives which
does help the chicken to deworm their bodies.

AND DE DOES WORK.
on chickens and all fowl and dogs and cats and even I take it daily.
SO GO ON LINE AND PUT DE INTO THE BROWSER AND YOU WILL FIND IT READILY AVAILABLE.

YES DO NOTE when using DE do not let it get in your nose or eyes, you may have to wear a mask of some kind to protect your nose.
I never have caused it to spread around so do not have any problems.

PS when using it in your chicken feed do stir it in good so all the chickens feed is coated with DE.

 

[Glenda Heywoodo]

Pumpkin:


Source: http://viewer.zmags.com/publication...aign=Acreage+11212015+Newsletter#/570ea92d/25

-Kathy

This URL does not give the actual source photos of this article.
I HAVE TRIED AND TRIED TO FIND IT.
Glenda Heywood

 

[Glenda Heywoodo]

http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/570ea92d?utm_source=bronto&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Image+-+AcreageLife&utm_content=AcreageLife%E2%80%99s+%22WINTER+LIVING+ISSUE%22&utm_campaign=Acreage+11212015+Newsletter#/570ea92d/25

Source: http://viewer.zmags.com/publication...aign=Acreage+11212015+Newsletter#/570ea92d/25

-Kathy

DID YOU GET THE ORIGINAL ARTICLE FROM THIS URL?
Glenda Heywood