Too Early for Feb Hatch-A-Long Thread??

[LilyD]

Reading what you said about how the chick looked, it wouldn't have mattered if you helped early. It seems that she wasn't fully formed or deformed in certain ways.

I'm sorry that you lost her, but know you did everything that you could

I agree it doesn't sound like she was going to thrive even if she was okay after hatching. So very sorry sometimes that happens.

 

[Mylied]

Sorry to keep you up and waiting for news, CluckNDoodle, but it was too late after I finished to check in.


(You might notice that I say "she" and "her" when I am talking about Valor. We actually have no idea of her gender, but we decided to hope for the best and therefore guessed she was female.)

As it turned out Valor was more tired than we thought. Piece by piece, we took of the whole top half (the air packet half) of the shell, membrane and all (didn't see a single blood vein in the membrane). Once again, thanks for the coconut oil tip, @LilyD, it made all the difference. The membrane near the zip was so dry that it was like a second layer of shell, and Valor was so dry that we put coconut oil on all exposed places to give she some moisture.

After the top was off Valor was still wiggling so we thought she would make it out by herself. We added a wet rag and a cup of water and, of course, Valor in his bottom shell. For five minutes we say on our hands while we watched before deciding he just needed a bit of time. We forced ourselves to leave the room.

10 minutes later (we had set a timer and everything) we were back. No progress. We took Valor out and angled the egg so it was angled down, helping her out. We chipped off a bit more of the shell and added more coconut oil and Valor "hatched"!

But there was one problem, her head appeared to be stuck under her wing. My helper panicked, saying "I can't do this!" This was probably the scariest part of the whole process. I comforted my helper, and we continues. With cue-tips I held the wing back and tried to push up the head so my helper could slide the cue-tip covered in coconut oil under, but the head was stuck. At this point I panicked and said stuff like, "she's not going to make it! She has a birth deformation that makes her head stick to her chest! We can't help her, we should 'put her down'!" My helper comforted me and said "it's just the membrane. This is a healthy chick, she is going to be okay." We tried again, and my helper was right, the membrane was sticking the head to the chest. With the help of the coconut oil we freed her head, but she still kept it curled down under her wing.

We put her in the incubator and left her for the night. I was literally shaking with relief that we didn't kill the chick. We watched a movie to calm our fears about the poor chick downstairs. By the time we finished it was 12:30 at night.

The next day I checked on Valor. Because she had been in the egg for so long I guessed that she was running out of the yolk in her stomach and I had it in my mind that if she was strong enough I would give her food and water. But now that she was half-dry I saw that my fears had been confirmed. The chick was too skinny and it's legs and neck were not thick enough to ever support any weight. The beak was too large for her head. I realized that Valor would never survive. We culled her this morning. I don't know what method was used because it wasn't me who did it.

Yes, I am sad. But I think it was better this way, because I wouldn't want Valor to live her whole life in pain.

Even if the assisted hatching didn't work I'm glad I got the experience. I know now that I should have acted sooner, so I will remember that for next time. Thank you everyone who helped make it possible for Valor to be able to stretch outside of the egg and enjoy freedom, if only for a few hours.

You did your best. You gave her a chance. I'm sorry it didn't end happily.

 

[starri33]

We have hatch , set 6, had to remove one, a quitter, put them on lock down Thursday night, thought I'd heard a squeek last night, then finally heard peeping, has hat me worried something might be wrong as it was 7:30 when I first heard the peep, I expected to wake up to a chick, he didn't hatch till about 10:00 or so. Of all the eggs to hatch out of, he hatched out of one of the eggs, I was 80% sure weren't going to hatch..lol. Now for the others. Hatch day isn't officially till tomorrow.

 

[LynnaePB]

Just turn the turner back on because I know someone who's turner was not working at all for the first week and when she noticed the embryos were stuck to one side of the egg. She started hand turning them and the embryos became unstuck after about two days. All of them hatched as well and are very healthy.

Thanks, it's great to hear others who accidentally didn't turn for awhile had good results even with longer periods of not turning! I turned the turner back on as soon as I found out it had been unplugged, hopefully no harm done.

Sorry to keep you up and waiting for news, CluckNDoodle, but it was too late after I finished to check in.


(You might notice that I say "she" and "her" when I am talking about Valor. We actually have no idea of her gender, but we decided to hope for the best and therefore guessed she was female.)

As it turned out Valor was more tired than we thought. Piece by piece, we took of the whole top half (the air packet half) of the shell, membrane and all (didn't see a single blood vein in the membrane). Once again, thanks for the coconut oil tip, @LilyD, it made all the difference. The membrane near the zip was so dry that it was like a second layer of shell, and Valor was so dry that we put coconut oil on all exposed places to give she some moisture.

After the top was off Valor was still wiggling so we thought she would make it out by herself. We added a wet rag and a cup of water and, of course, Valor in his bottom shell. For five minutes we say on our hands while we watched before deciding he just needed a bit of time. We forced ourselves to leave the room.

10 minutes later (we had set a timer and everything) we were back. No progress. We took Valor out and angled the egg so it was angled down, helping her out. We chipped off a bit more of the shell and added more coconut oil and Valor "hatched"!

But there was one problem, her head appeared to be stuck under her wing. My helper panicked, saying "I can't do this!" This was probably the scariest part of the whole process. I comforted my helper, and we continues. With cue-tips I held the wing back and tried to push up the head so my helper could slide the cue-tip covered in coconut oil under, but the head was stuck. At this point I panicked and said stuff like, "she's not going to make it! She has a birth deformation that makes her head stick to her chest! We can't help her, we should 'put her down'!" My helper comforted me and said "it's just the membrane. This is a healthy chick, she is going to be okay." We tried again, and my helper was right, the membrane was sticking the head to the chest. With the help of the coconut oil we freed her head, but she still kept it curled down under her wing.

We put her in the incubator and left her for the night. I was literally shaking with relief that we didn't kill the chick. We watched a movie to calm our fears about the poor chick downstairs. By the time we finished it was 12:30 at night.

The next day I checked on Valor. Because she had been in the egg for so long I guessed that she was running out of the yolk in her stomach and I had it in my mind that if she was strong enough I would give her food and water. But now that she was half-dry I saw that my fears had been confirmed. The chick was too skinny and it's legs and neck were not thick enough to ever support any weight. The beak was too large for her head. I realized that Valor would never survive. We culled her this morning. I don't know what method was used because it wasn't me who did it.

Yes, I am sad. But I think it was better this way, because I wouldn't want Valor to live her whole life in pain.

Even if the assisted hatching didn't work I'm glad I got the experience. I know now that I should have acted sooner, so I will remember that for next time. Thank you everyone who helped make it possible for Valor to be able to stretch outside of the egg and enjoy freedom, if only for a few hours.

I'm so sorry about little valor. I agree with FortCluck by the sounds of it there was most likely something wrong with the little one and she wouldn't have been able to survive even with earlier intervention. I'm glad you were able to gain some valuable experience, I'm so sorry it was so tough to go through though.

 

[FortCluck]

Thanks, it's great to hear others who accidentally didn't turn for awhile had good results even with longer periods of not turning! I turned the turner back on as soon as I found out it had been unplugged, hopefully no harm done.



I'm so sorry about little valor. I agree with FortCluck by the sounds of it there was most likely something wrong with the little one and she wouldn't have been able to survive even with earlier intervention. I'm glad you were able to gain some valuable experience, I'm so sorry it was so tough to go through though.

This person bought a brand new incubator and turner and the turner wasn't working at all. We figured it out because when they candled all the embryos were stuck to the same side of the egg.

It was a flat turner and you lay the eggs on their side. My turner is one where you put the pointed side down.

 

[CluckNDoodle]

Sorry to keep you up and waiting for news, CluckNDoodle, but it was too late after I finished to check in.


(You might notice that I say "she" and "her" when I am talking about Valor. We actually have no idea of her gender, but we decided to hope for the best and therefore guessed she was female.)

As it turned out Valor was more tired than we thought. Piece by piece, we took of the whole top half (the air packet half) of the shell, membrane and all (didn't see a single blood vein in the membrane). Once again, thanks for the coconut oil tip, @LilyD, it made all the difference. The membrane near the zip was so dry that it was like a second layer of shell, and Valor was so dry that we put coconut oil on all exposed places to give she some moisture.

After the top was off Valor was still wiggling so we thought she would make it out by herself. We added a wet rag and a cup of water and, of course, Valor in his bottom shell. For five minutes we say on our hands while we watched before deciding he just needed a bit of time. We forced ourselves to leave the room.

10 minutes later (we had set a timer and everything) we were back. No progress. We took Valor out and angled the egg so it was angled down, helping her out. We chipped off a bit more of the shell and added more coconut oil and Valor "hatched"!

But there was one problem, her head appeared to be stuck under her wing. My helper panicked, saying "I can't do this!" This was probably the scariest part of the whole process. I comforted my helper, and we continues. With cue-tips I held the wing back and tried to push up the head so my helper could slide the cue-tip covered in coconut oil under, but the head was stuck. At this point I panicked and said stuff like, "she's not going to make it! She has a birth deformation that makes her head stick to her chest! We can't help her, we should 'put her down'!" My helper comforted me and said "it's just the membrane. This is a healthy chick, she is going to be okay." We tried again, and my helper was right, the membrane was sticking the head to the chest. With the help of the coconut oil we freed her head, but she still kept it curled down under her wing.

We put her in the incubator and left her for the night. I was literally shaking with relief that we didn't kill the chick. We watched a movie to calm our fears about the poor chick downstairs. By the time we finished it was 12:30 at night.

The next day I checked on Valor. Because she had been in the egg for so long I guessed that she was running out of the yolk in her stomach and I had it in my mind that if she was strong enough I would give her food and water. But now that she was half-dry I saw that my fears had been confirmed. The chick was too skinny and it's legs and neck were not thick enough to ever support any weight. The beak was too large for her head. I realized that Valor would never survive. We culled her this morning. I don't know what method was used because it wasn't me who did it.

Yes, I am sad. But I think it was better this way, because I wouldn't want Valor to live her whole life in pain.

Even if the assisted hatching didn't work I'm glad I got the experience. I know now that I should have acted sooner, so I will remember that for next time. Thank you everyone who helped make it possible for Valor to be able to stretch outside of the egg and enjoy freedom, if only for a few hours.

Oh no! I'm so sorry to hear this.

 

[Mylied]

Why are ducklings so stinking cute? There are 4 out and 2 left pipped.

 

[CluckNDoodle]

Why are ducklings so stinking cute? There are 4 out and 2 left pipped.View attachment 2027046View attachment 2027047

Oh my goodness!! They really are!!!

 

[FortCluck]

Why are ducklings so stinking cute? There are 4 out and 2 left pipped.View attachment 2027046View attachment 2027047

They're way cuter then chicks I'm obsessed with my ducks. I don't think they ever get ugly!

 

[Silkie_Mama]

I just had my first hatch of the season, so not too early at all! I only hatched 2, one is hopefully still going to hatch (was put under momma a few days late) Best of luck!