Tooth-like lifelong growths on hen's comb suddenly expanding

Cochintrice

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Apologies for the length, I want to be thorough. I would like to preface this with the fact that my bird is not urgently ill! About 4 vets have seen the growths before this throughout her life and were stumped but unconcerned. So I took their collective word for it. Stuff has changed in the past few months however, and not only has my usual chicken vet lost their farm and exotics Dr. but I'm in thw sort of health where covid has kept me indoors.since this time last year.

Pepper is a standard cochin, 7 years old, and has expressed this issue to some extent since her comb was big enough to even really see. She is healthy weight with a normal activity level. There has been no sign of illness, injury, or change in behavior. She eats and drinks as much as she should (no layer as she doesn't lay eggs now) Stools are normal. No other bird on the property has these. She was vaccinated against fowl pox and marek's when young. I've seen fowl pox a few times now and this is definitely not it.

Pepper is a house chicken and she has been her entire life. She was a singleton chick and is fully convinced she's just another human. That's the weirdest part of her husbandry. I don't think a more comfortable life exists for a hen her age. She prefers to just be cozy all day, spending her time in my lap or on a pillow, blankets, cat bed, etc.

As a wee pullet Pepper had one round white dot on her newly visible comb from day 1. This very slowly became three dots on the one side and expanded in size at a glacial pace. They stayed small enough that looking through photos I realized I can't even see them! They never hurt her, oozed, crusted, or disappeared.

Now her comb is weighed down by them with the whole end buckled inward by these growths on both sides and it seems dry. Still not at all painful, oozing or itchy. She only fusses if they are pulled on. They would take significant force to remove as I've had to pull on them a bit here and there to get a good look at everything.

The growths are tooth-like (nail-like may also be appropriate.) Completely hard, yellow-white, with at least a dimple in the middle making them reminiscent of a molar. One even seems more akin to a barnacle. They grew over a period of about 3 months then have sloooowly kept growing for another 3.

Has anyone out there ever encountered this before? What did you find out it was if you ever did at all? I'm trying not to be alarmed but am slightly worried this could somehow be related to an immunodeficiency (like tumors of some sort) or organ failure (some kind of build up, but why it would be excreted via the comb is anyone's guess?) There is also a chance they are something like majorly clogged pores. These are all jist shots in the dark. All I can say for certain is they're not something commonly documented. I may try getting them loosened up by soaking with a warm damp cloth but I don't want to somehow cause more harm than good, especially since they seem entirely benign from what I know right now.

Attached are photos of her comb and rhe growths. They're not the best since they're with my phone.
 

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7 years old
She is healthy weight with a normal activity level. There has been no sign of illness, injury, or change in behavior. She eats and drinks as much as she should (no layer as she doesn't lay eggs now) Stools are normal

not at all painful, oozing or itchy. She only fusses if they are pulled on.
About 4 vets have seen the growths before this throughout her life and were stumped but unconcerned.

I don't know what those are.
She's 7 years old. Those have been on her comb throughout her lifetime, they don't bother her. She's healthy and active. 4 vets have looked at the growths and are unconcerned.

Personally, I would leave them alone if they are not bothering to her.
 
Hate to say I never found out a concrete answer, but papilloma is still a top suspect. The other contender is feathers where they shouldn't be. My poor girl passed away from old age on Sunday so I will never know for sure.

In the intermim, what I gathered since:
-She was having a terrible molt at the time.
-The longest grew in a tight pillar of rings. Some stayed fairly stubby.
-They left pockmarks when they came out. These seemed permanent but weren't raw at all.
-They did eventually come out all at once at the end of her molt! They got weirdly flaky on the outside, not in a powdery fungal way, but like feather caps of all things. You know that particular texture.
-I had accidentally removed one by jostling it and found it had gone from firmly stuck to ready to fall out. So I removed them. No fuss or pain.
-Examining them off her, they were uncannily like pin feathers? That stiff waxiness that gives way under enough pressure.
-She then went some time without them, until this fall when her next molt hit. Just before then they started coming back in the exact same shape in the same pocks.
-They didn't get wacky this time though. they got to a point that matched the original growths from her youth and ceased to grow entirely.
-No change in behavior at any time.

Unfortunately I won't have more information since she is gone now. If anyone else ever sees such a thing again I would be interested in knowing.
 
Favus, a fungal infection, can affect the comb. I have seen it in one of my chickens with a pea comb, and it looked like 3 small white dots. Miconozole or clotrimazole cream can be applied daily. With such long standing lesions on your hen, it might be hard to clear up. With my hen, it came and went occasionally. Most favus pictures were more of a white chaulky appearance that spread on the face and head.
 
Yeah, I'm 100% sure it isn't favus or fowlpox or else this would've been a diagnosis I or my vets could come to easily on my own. I don't think she's ill and am not worried, I'm just super curious and also know this discussion will be visible for anyone else with a similar issue who might be more scared. They're a curiosity relevant to health only in that they're abberant. It is a comfort to know that someone else has seen these before! And may be to someone in the future :)

Does anyone know if there is an equivalent in chickens like HPV? Humans and chickens are very different things so this could be entirely off base, but after doing more digging around these look very similar to verruca/plantar warts. Those are usually a foot thing but can occur on any part of the body. I imagine that might be why azygous suggested lip sore meds- not something I have experience with/could get if necessary so if that would be the fix I'm grateful they don't hurt her. If these ever do start to seem uncomfortable perhaps I will start with looking at cryotherapy for removal.

Thanks all!
 

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