Top Ten Worming and Wormer Misinformations - Graphic Pictures!

[casportpony]

The Valbazen dose is 20mg/kg, so to get the per pound dose one does this:

1 pound, divide by 2.2, times 20 (mg/kg), divide by 113.6 (mg/ml) 0.08ml per pound.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

1kg of water is 1,000,000 ml, but I don't think that's what you mean.


Give me an example of a medication you might want to use and I'll show you a formula for figuring out the dose.


-Kathy

Not trying to do a conversion. Just stating a fact. It is hard to convert a weight into a volume (liquid). kg and mg are measures of weight. Liquid medications are usually administered by ml (volume), not by weight. The pages you posted from the book indicate weight but the medicine doses being posted here on BYC is being given by volume (ml).

Just requires a little math, but most people prefer to be told how much to give, so that's why most of my posts include the dose in ml per pound. I've already done the math.

-Kathy

 

[Betsy57]

One ml of Valbazen has 113.6mg of albendazole
One ml of Safeguard has 100mg of fenbendazole
One ml of ivermectin paste has 18.7mg ivermectin
One ml of Safeguard paste has 100mg of fenbendazole
One ml of Corid liquid has 96mg amprolium
One ml of Wazine has 17ml of piperazine
One ml of invermectin injectable has 10mg ivermectin
One ml of ivermectin pour on has 5mg ivermectin.

To calculate the dose is *dead* simple if you know the proper dose for the species and the what the animal weighs.

I will use ivermectin injectable and a 10 pound bird as an example.

Weight of bird pounds (10), divided by 2.2 to convert to kg, times the recommended dose of 0.2mg per 1kg of bird weight (0.2mg/kg), divided by the number mg per one ml (10).

10 / 2.2 x 0.2 /10 = 0.09ml of the injectable ivermectin for a 10 pound bird.

-Kathy

Glad you can do math. Not my strong point. I'm a social worker/bereavement counselor. I don't do math well at t'all. Thanx for the conversions.

 

[dawg53]

Quote: Valbazen treats all known types of worms that chickens get. Increased dosage is necessary to kill all types of tapeworms as well as gapeworms. The second dosage at the tenth day kills all types of capillary worms. Since you havnt used it, you wouldnt know this.

 

[Miss Lydia]

Valbazen treats all known types of worms that chickens get. Increased dosage is necessary to kill all types of tapeworms as well as gapeworms. The second dosage at the tenth day kills all types of capillary worms. Since you havnt used it, you wouldnt know this.

Increased dosage?from what Kathy just posted? and increased dosage again on day 10?
Thanks Dawg and Kathy appreciate you both.

 

[casportpony]

 
Valbazen treats all known types of worms that chickens get. Increased dosage is necessary to kill all types of tapeworms as well as gapeworms. The second dosage at the tenth day kills all types of capillary worms. Since you havnt used it, you wouldnt know this.

Increased dosage?from what Kathy just posted? and increased dosage again on day 10?
Thanks Dawg and Kathy appreciate you both.

I should have worded my previous post better... I did not mean that Valbazen *wouldn't* trea gapeworms, it will, but one would have to give it several days in a row to treat them, just like Safeguard. I also didn't mean that it won't treat some *types* of capillary worms, 'cause it will, but at 20mg/kg it might not get 100% of whatever type the bird might have. As for tapeworms, one dose @20mg/kg *might* treat some species.

-Kathy

 

[dawg53]

Quote:
Sorry to confuse you Patti. Tapeworms are difficult to get rid of in chickens. There's not that many wormers that will treat them. You'll see rice-like segments in feces, a sign of tapeworms. Valbazen will kill them, but requires a different protocol to get rid of them. I've dealt with tapeworms.
When there's no sign of tapeworm segments, I give my standard size birds 1/2cc orally undiluted and redose the same amount 10 days later. No problem.

 

[casportpony]

And Dawg's 1/2cc dose for a standard size bird works out to ~20mg/kg, which is 0.08ml per pound. Your ducks and geese will need more than 1/2cc, but you already know that, lol.

-Kathy

 

[critterkeeper25]

I just finally finished reading this entire thread!

I sure am glad that you all have provided the needed dosages. My brain is fried from just trying to wrap it around all the info. I use to be in accounting, but that was a while ago and I am much older now. Guess that's why I've got a headache! LOL I've taken the time to write all the wormer/dosages down. Now, I need a warm day to go out and collect the poo to take to the vet to have it checked. It seems to freeze to the ground as fast as it drops out of the birds! I am so sick of winter! I can't wait until it gets above 40 ! It will feel like summer time!

 

[dawg53]

I just finally finished reading this entire thread!

I sure am glad that you all have provided the needed dosages. My brain is fried from just trying to wrap it around all the info. I use to be in accounting, but that was a while ago and I am much older now. Guess that's why I've got a headache! LOL I've taken the time to write all the wormer/dosages down. Now, I need a warm day to go out and collect the poo to take to the vet to have it checked. It seems to freeze to the ground as fast as it drops out of the birds! I am so sick of winter! I can't wait until it gets above 40 ! It will feel like summer time!

LOL. Dont worry, it's not as difficult as you think. Once you complete your first worming, you'll be an expert in no time...piece of cake.