Trapping the cat

[tennesseequail]

No. Some people place different moral values on topics than tou do

I grew up on a farm. Life and death are well known by the age of 5

 

[EggSighted4Life]

I guess I don’t understand what you mean by dispatch? I could never harm an animal unless it was a threat to my pups or child. The shelter I take them to said they only kill for behavior issues or extremely poor health. Was that a lie? I didn’t think I was doing anything illegal. Really confused now I guess.

Sorry for the confusion.

No, you are NOT doing anything illegal as far as I can tell. People who trap and relocate, without the proper permission and such... they are. But worse than illegal... they think they are doing the kindest and most humane thing for the relocated animal... not realizing they just put it in a fight for it's life. So I try and put the information out in case someone reads it and makes the realization.

Yes, by dispatch... I mean to eliminate by humane method (such as shooting). Not the same as "harm". It's what most of us in the forest must do in order to stop them from coming for a free chicken dinner night after night. Again, I personally use containment of my own animals when needed. Hawks are my biggest threat since my dogs keep daytime ground predators away and my coop is locked up with any holes covered in 1/2 inch welded wire hardware cloth for night time lurkers. Raccoon, domestic dog, opossum, weasel, and many others can do a LOT of damage to a flock.

No, it sounds like the shelter was honest with you about having to use euthanasia when necessary! I just put it out there for people who may not understand that. I don't think you have done anything wrong!

While there are laws in place for people to keep their domestic cats on their property... I have YET to meet anyone who has a cat with outdoor access and ensures they stay on site. I would NOT feel bad about trapping a neighbors cat and taking to the shelter. If they have to pay a bail... maybe they will be more responsible owners... if they are smart enough to check the shelter. And those cats are PURRfectly happy to claw up the paint job on my brand new truck or car to get on top of my warm engine.

How old are your chicks?

 

[Estelleannette]

Sorry for the confusion.

No, you are NOT doing anything illegal as far as I can tell. People who trap and relocate, without the proper permission and such... they are. But worse than illegal... they think they are doing the kindest and most humane thing for the relocated animal... not realizing they just put it in a fight for it's life. So I try and put the information out in case someone reads it and makes the realization.

Yes, by dispatch... I mean to eliminate by humane method (such as shooting). Not the same as "harm". It's what most of us in the forest must do in order to stop them from coming for a free chicken dinner night after night. Again, I personally use containment of my own animals when needed. Hawks are my biggest threat since my dogs keep daytime ground predators away and my coop is locked up with any holes covered in 1/2 inch welded wire hardware cloth for night time lurkers. Raccoon, domestic dog, opossum, weasel, and many others can do a LOT of damage to a flock.

No, it sounds like the shelter was honest with you about having to use euthanasia when necessary! I just put it out there for people who may not understand that. I don't think you have done anything wrong!

While there are laws in place for people to keep their domestic cats on their property... I have YET to meet anyone who has a cat with outdoor access and ensures they stay on site. I would NOT feel bad about trapping a neighbors cat and taking to the shelter. If they have to pay a bail... maybe they will be more responsible owners... if they are smart enough to check the shelter. And those cats are PURRfectly happy to claw up the paint job on my brand new truck or car to get on top of my warm engine.

How old are your chicks?

More so teenagers I guess. lol

 

[ColtHandorf]

It's not that you've done anything "wrong" per say. Feral cats have a much larger impact on native wildlife like songbirds than they would on your chickens. So removing them is beneficial to the environment. Education was just trying to be made about the nature of "no-kill" shelters.

For example... at one time I worked with a pet store that partnered with a Humane Society and adopted their kittens and puppies out of our store. Both of the owners were on the Board for the Humane Society. When a move was made for the shelter to move to "No-Kill" both of the owners resigned from their places. At first I didn't understand their reasoning for the resignation, but it soon became evident after visiting the facility to pick up litters to adopt at the store. The shelter was now at full capacity and animals in need were turned away. That in itself isn't truly a tragedy, but when their are hundreds of dogs deemed un-adoptable that aren't euthanized in order to make room for animals that are, there's a problem. No animal should be forced to live it's entire life in a cage in a room filled with three hundred other "broken" dogs all screaming at the top of their lungs anytime something disturbed them and people convincing themselves that they are doing the animal a favor by not ending a life where the animal doesn't thrive but merely survives is wrong. We continued to work with them for some time but as their adoption policies became more and more stringent and difficult and they began sending us puppies infected with the parvo virus and distemper on purpose, we elected to create our own program and worked directly with the public.

Of course all shelters aren't like that, but often times what they want us to see and think may not be the reality.

 

[Ninjasquirrel]

Our no kill shelter actually tries to rehab strays. If they cant rehab the feral ones they spay and neuter and then release. They are completely a no kill shelter. They also require if you are to get a cat there it:
1. Must be an INSIDE cat.
2. Never declawed
3. Kept up to date on shots
4. Provided regular vet visits
5. Not abused in any way
They even check in with your vet to ensure you are doing this. It's a great place.

 

[tennesseequail]

Not everything is cookie cutter perfect


First feral cat laws dont apply in every state. I have owned a farm for a very very long time. I dont now but I can tell you that feral cats are dropped at farms everywhere here and most t))hrive

I had over 40 at one point hanging around my barn/land I didnt bring a single one there. I'm sure I k ow how they ended up there...they got dropped

Just to confirm I called our sheriff department and dropping domesticated animals is a crime. Feral cats not

Living in Tennessee in the country usually you can simply go up to a farm and ask a farmer eith a barn and he will say drop them

We also never ever have water supply issues here...however just dropping animals is not suggested by me and being drom.here we have rules about that unwritten

Dropping dogs however is a big big no no anywhere. Feral dog packs are a big issue

 

[ColtHandorf]

Releasing feral cats that are no longer intact still harms local wildlife. No they can't breed, but they can still decimate native populations of small mammals, amphibians, insects, reptiles, and birds.

 

[llombardo]

The landlord was like the neighbors are gonna be mad if it’s their cat. Well I don’t want my defenseless chickens attacked either. I guess some would do worse things to the cats.

I had a stray rooster a whe back. He was hanging outside my fence along the side of it. I went to check on him one day before work and he was resting comfortably and a stray cat was sleeping next to him. The cat got spooked and ran off. None of the strays here bother withthe chickes and my own cats are afraid of them. Not all cats are problem, most aren't, but you never know. If you are seeing them now, I bet they have always been there to begin with but minding their own busiess.

 

[llombardo]

Releasing feral cats that are no longer intact still harms local wildlife. No they can't breed, but they can still decimate native populations of small mammals, amphibians, insects, reptiles, and birds.

We having working cat programs here. They use them in barns and in the city to control rats. It works well here.

 

[llombardo]

I guess I don’t understand what you mean by dispatch? I could never harm an animal unless it was a threat to my pups or child. The shelter I take them to said they only kill for behavior issues or extremely poor health. Was that a lie? I didn’t think I was doing anything illegal. Really confused now I guess.

It depends on the cat. Most ferals can not be handled and if the shelter does not have a program for feral cats, they would euthanize because they would have behavior issues.