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I have to agree. Most "jumbo browns" seem to be regular browns, maybe "medium browns" if you're lucky. Let me know your adult weights on these birds, if they're sizable, I'll probably buy some from you to give a jump to mine and bring in some new blood. Mine are supposed to be 12 ouncers, and they're gaining about an ounce per week. They're already 6oz birds at 6 weeks.