L'oie Flamande
Two colours : white ; grey and white.Gander : 5 to 6 kg ; goose : 4 to 4,5 kg.
Tula, Emporda, Normandy and other unusual breeds
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Gander : 5 to 6 kg ; goose : 4 to 4,5 kg.
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Well, I think they probably are normandy geese, more or less, due to their size and looks and the way they´re auto-sexing.for all you know they could be closely related
Here in Brazil so many Europeans have come over and settled in areas...Germans, Dutch, Italians, French, Polish, etc, and they have obviously brought their poultry with them....eggs especially. And the flocks have been left to just get on with it, ending up being 'closed flocks' on some fazendas, which most of this area was some time back. That´s my theory as to how I´ve just stumbled across these apparently 2 'breeds' of auto-sexing geese.
And like those lovely pics that sebastopol has posted, slight variations according to the region......it´s so interesting, isn´t it? The ones developed from greylag descendents from western Europe, then the others from E Europe, then the asiatic ones like the swan goose, crossed to make ones like the Tula and those other strange-looking ones....what an interesting thread we have here!
Interesting brazil and seb 
still researching
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They are gorgeous, but why is it that everytime I see a solid white goose other than the Chinese or African I see my Embden ? They do look simular ?More normandy geese, aren´t they lovely? They´re just a small breed.
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True and interesting !
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Basque Goose Plumage colour grey Weight gander 7-9 kg goose 6-8 kg Country of origine Spain Congeries - eggs Egg weight 160 g Egg Colour white Utilisation meat, feather Ring size gander - mm goose - mm
This breed looks like a just pure mixed breed! Ive loads of female geese that look like this breed! But its a pure breed so :/
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I started looking under russian breeds and came across this information:
KUBAN (Anser cygnoides)
This breed was developed at the Kuban Agricultural Institute (southern Russia) by crossing Gorki and Chinese geese. The feather colour is brown which results in relatively dark pin-feathers and thus an unattractive carcass. These birds have orange shanks while their beaks and knobs are black to dark green. The adult body weight for the male is 5.2 kg and 4.8 kg for the female. The advantage of this breed is that they have a relatively high egg production of between 50-60 eggs with an average egg weight of 150 g. This makes the Kuban suitable for use as a female line in a crossbreeding programme provided it is used in such a way that the resulting commercial crossbreeds are essentially white and that the poor body conformation associated with the Kuban can be overcome.
(Source: Buckland, 1995)
LANDES (Anser anser)
Both the males and females of this breed are grey and their shanks and beaks are orange to yellow. This breed originated in France but has been widely used in a number of other countries, notably Hungary, for the production of fatty livers (Foie Gras). Today there are a number of lines of the Landes that have been selected for their ability to produce fatty livers. They originate from the grey Toulouse geese, but today their feather phenotype is similar to the wild Greylag goose although they are much larger in body size. The adult body weight of the male is 6.0 kg while that of the female is 5.0 kg. The annual egg production is 40 eggs per female per year with an egg weight of 170 g.
WHITE ITALIAN (Anser anser)
The White Italian is a very popular breed in Europe and one often finds reference to it in the formation of local stocks. It is also a breed that has been well researched. The White Italians reported on in this publication are those kept at the Koluda Wielka Experimental Station in Poland where they have been under genetic selection since the 1960s and where separate male and female lines have been developed. Goslings of both lines can be sexed during the first ten days of life on down colour, as males are lighter in colour than females. As the name indicates, the adult plumage is white while the shanks and beaks are orange. In the male line, the average body weight of males is 7.0 kg and of females is 6.5 kg, while in the female line the average is 6.5 kg for the males and 6.2 kg for the females.
Annual egg production for the male line is 55-65 eggs while for the female line it is 60-70 eggs and egg weight for both is 160-180 g. The White Italian, at least for these strains, has the highest egg production of any of the Anser anser type breeds. Thus these lines can be used directly as male and female lines respectively to produce two-way commercial crosses or the female line can be used to produce a crossbred female parent line. The White Italian and particularly these lines, is therefore one of the breeds of choice for anyone wanting to produce geese for meat production.
KUBAN (Anser cygnoides)
This breed was developed at the Kuban Agricultural Institute (southern Russia) by crossing Gorki and Chinese geese. The feather colour is brown which results in relatively dark pin-feathers and thus an unattractive carcass. These birds have orange shanks while their beaks and knobs are black to dark green. The adult body weight for the male is 5.2 kg and 4.8 kg for the female. The advantage of this breed is that they have a relatively high egg production of between 50-60 eggs with an average egg weight of 150 g. This makes the Kuban suitable for use as a female line in a crossbreeding programme provided it is used in such a way that the resulting commercial crossbreeds are essentially white and that the poor body conformation associated with the Kuban can be overcome.
(Source: Buckland, 1995)
FIGURE 6. Flock of Kuban geese (Democratic People's Republic of Korea)
LANDES (Anser anser)
Both the males and females of this breed are grey and their shanks and beaks are orange to yellow. This breed originated in France but has been widely used in a number of other countries, notably Hungary, for the production of fatty livers (Foie Gras). Today there are a number of lines of the Landes that have been selected for their ability to produce fatty livers. They originate from the grey Toulouse geese, but today their feather phenotype is similar to the wild Greylag goose although they are much larger in body size. The adult body weight of the male is 6.0 kg while that of the female is 5.0 kg. The annual egg production is 40 eggs per female per year with an egg weight of 170 g.
FIGURE 7. Landes geese under the trees (France)
WHITE ITALIAN (Anser anser)
The White Italian is a very popular breed in Europe and one often finds reference to it in the formation of local stocks. It is also a breed that has been well researched. The White Italians reported on in this publication are those kept at the Koluda Wielka Experimental Station in Poland where they have been under genetic selection since the 1960s and where separate male and female lines have been developed. Goslings of both lines can be sexed during the first ten days of life on down colour, as males are lighter in colour than females. As the name indicates, the adult plumage is white while the shanks and beaks are orange. In the male line, the average body weight of males is 7.0 kg and of females is 6.5 kg, while in the female line the average is 6.5 kg for the males and 6.2 kg for the females.
Annual egg production for the male line is 55-65 eggs while for the female line it is 60-70 eggs and egg weight for both is 160-180 g. The White Italian, at least for these strains, has the highest egg production of any of the Anser anser type breeds. Thus these lines can be used directly as male and female lines respectively to produce two-way commercial crosses or the female line can be used to produce a crossbred female parent line. The White Italian and particularly these lines, is therefore one of the breeds of choice for anyone wanting to produce geese for meat production.
FIGURE 8. White Italian geese on pasture (Poland)
Tschechische Gänse, Oie de Bohême, Oie Tchéque, Czech Geese
Male 5 Kg , Female 4 Kg .
Male 5 Kg , Female 4 Kg .
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