Turkeys and chickens housed together??

[MovieFanz]

I didn't know you can get diseases from eggs. How do you know if the eggs are tested?

 

[arabianequine]

I don't mix my turkeys and chickens. They can give each other different diseases. The toms can also hurt the chicken hens if they try and mate with them because the toms are so big.....they have been known to crush them and kill them.

 

[Steve_of_sandspoultry]

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M gallisepticum infection is commonly designated as chronic respiratory disease in chickens and as infectious sinusitis in turkeys. Infection may also be seen in pheasants, chukar partridges, and peafowl. Infection in pigeons, quail, ducks, geese, and psittacine birds should be considered. Passerine-type birds are quite resistant, although M gallisepticum is the major cause of natural outbreaks of conjunctivitis in wild house finches (Carpodacus mexicanus) in the eastern USA. The disease is worldwide. Its effects are most severe in large commercial operations during winter.

The only way to keep your flock totaly safe is to raise them in a sterile bubble but most people do ok raising poultry.

Steve

I would not say you need to raise them in a sterile bubble but you should practice basic biosecurity. Only get eggs, chickens and poults from clean tested birds free from MG. If you do not know, ask if there birds are tested.

Wow! You left this part out in your copy and paste thread.

In the USA, most breeder flocks are free of M gallisepticum , and outbreaks are due to lateral transmission from infected chickens; however, in some parts of the world, egg transmission is a major source of infection. The incidence of egg transmission is highly variable, ranging up to 30-40% during the first 2 mo after infection of susceptible birds in production. The transmission rate then lessens and is inconsistent (0-5%) until the end of production. Birds infected before the onset of production transmit through the egg at a much lower rate, if at all. The infection may be dormant in the infected chick for days to months, but when the flock is stressed, aerosol transmission occurs rapidly and infection spreads through the flock. Live virus vaccination, natural virus infection, cold weather, or crowding may initiate the spread. In addition, the infection may be carried by personnel (especially from an infected to a clean flock), fomites, or introduction of infected birds. In many flocks, the source of infection cannot be determined.
The epithelium of the upper air passages is most susceptible to infection; however, in severe, acute disease the infection is also found in the lower respiratory tract. There is a marked interaction between respiratory viruses, Escherichia coli , and M gallisepticum in the pathogenesis of chronic respiratory disease. Once infected, birds remain carriers for life.

I'm new to the whole cut and paste for each and every thread thing.

Some are much better than me. I try to base my responces on personal experience.

Steve

 

[MovieFanz]

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I would just die if my turkeys got MG. What did you do when your turkeys got MG?

 

[Steve_of_sandspoultry]

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I would just die if my turkeys got MG. What did you do when your turkeys got MG?

My turkeys have never had MG and have been tested.

Steve

 

[MovieFanz]

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I would just die if my turkeys got MG. What did you do when your turkeys got MG?

My turkeys have never had MG and have been tested.

Steve

I am sorry I just seen all your responses about MG and how to treat it. I thought that was personal experience. Can you tell me about the test? Where do you get it? How often should you test them?

 

[Steve_of_sandspoultry]

Anybody that raises any poultry or animal would be wise to be as educated as possible on the care and feeding and illness of them. Also after being on various poultry boards for many years you hear about pretty much anything that can happen.

Steve

 

[MovieFanz]

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I see. If you read a message board a long time you call it your personal experience. Is reading on the internet count a personal experience too, or does MB the only way you get personal experience? Say for example you read the internet a long time.

Can you tell me about the test and where you get it? I am very interested in this test. Do you test the egg?

 

[ivan3]

MovieFanz wrote: I see. If you read a message board a long time you call it your personal experience. Is reading on the internet count a personal experience too, or does MB the only way you get personal experience? Say for example you read the internet a long time.

The treatment of flock(s), in a specific location, by owners with a specific goal in mind for their flock(s), will often be completely different from that of another owner (what vaccine/what price point/pets or breeding or meat or some combination?). Also, the incidence/prevalence of a specific disease, in a specific region, can also affect choice of treatment and/or culling. MB's are useful for general info. or seining for really anomalous information that can afford one the opportunity to to dig through the largest open stack library the world has ever known (web) to find out something new (if it hasn't been documented maybe one is on the way to a Nobel prize - one just never knows - and one can never know enough).

One should do one's own research, e.g., call one's State Vet, check with other flock owners in one's region, call the local vet school, etc. (there are some limitations on some vaccine use in Missouri).

Map of MG from Paraguay (just to give an example of how this can differ from one location to another - same for `Blackhead', etc.): http://www.pjbs.org/ijps/fin1461.pdf

One might consider Reading the Merck. If one doesn't understand some words or concepts well, there are many dictionaries to use: http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/203402.htm

MB's are more about touching base with folks with like minded interests, trilling at other members so they'll unfurl their rectrices and dangle their snoods instead of offering a poster possibly useful info. seems a waste.

By observing one's flock((s) closely and researching and understanding one's own circumstances it becomes possible to add to knowledge on BYC (actually becoming a rather comprehensive database owing to the time and effort contributed by members).

I'd suggest the internet archive, as well: http://www.archive.org/ more poultry info than there is to know about.

Just something I had digitized to add to the reference stack a few years ago: https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=156131 Hope you find it useful at some point.​

 

[dnichols]

Are there any breeds of heritage turkeys that would go better with chickens? What about the smaller breeds of turkey. I forget what they're called, something like a micro tom?

Also how loud are the Toms? Are they like roosters in that they are constantly crowing?

Also would a turkey help scare off predators?