Tying a dead chicken around their neck

kimbobim:
Our 7-month old is a black female and she is filling out very nicely and has a beautifully tight curled coat. She is a good girl, and the shock collar got through to her, but like you said, they are young and therefore appear more interesting. She was interested in the DC hens until they came after her. But these must have just sat there while she chomped one after the other. Poor things. I did try to tie the chickens around the neck, and I found that it was a treat because there are two of them. If they couldn't reach their own they ate the other's carcass. Oh well. I did go out and took another dead chicken and had a lesson time with her that it is MY chicken and she must leave it alone. That is all I am going to say about that. We know we do need to keep a close eye on her when they young ones are out now. I did have one that was not accounted for after the massacre that came back, so I do have two pullets left.

I love our poodles and I would rather have to pen in the chickens before getting rid of either the dogs or the birds. I studied dog breeds for 6-years before deciding on the poodles and part of that was because of the compatibility with other animals. I know they are smart and very trainable and that is what I am going to do. I did not go into this blindly and I do not have a grudge against my dog now that this happened. I am well aware of what her breed is and I will do whatever I have to to work with that. It is a lesson we are learning. You can read a million books about something and until you have the hands-on experience, you can never know what it is like to do it. That is where I am.

By the way, the male SP we just got is a dark shade of chocolate. He is a rambunctious fellow and they keep each other worn out so they are not under our feet all of the time, but they do love us people. In fact, when I went to pick up our female, the breeder was telling me all about the party they had the day before and how she was just making her way through the crowd and enjoying all the attention with the people. Then when we took her to puppy class, when it was puppy play time, she had no interest in the other pups, she went from person to person around the room to say hello. It was quite comical. They are wonderful dogs, and I am sure down the road, someone will buy some of our pups for hunting and that is great, but until then, we have to teach them where their place is on our farm and in our family. I have no doubt that we will get through this.

Thanks for all the input. I was not looking for the great "shall I beat my dog" debate, but apparently it happened anyway. I do not condone beating a dog, but I do believe in punishment that is appropriate for the "crime". The last thing I would want to do is to damage my dog's psychy. So, folks, don't worry, she is in safe hands. I was very hesitant on the shock collar, but it is a useful tool to get through to a stubborn dog, and 90% of the time all it has taken is the beep that does not shock. Sometimes if she just sees the remote in our hand she stops whatever she is doing. It helps that she is so stinking smart.
 
Timing is everything when it comes to positively and negatively disciplining a dog. E-collars help because you can time it nearly perfect. Dogs can not think abstractly and as much as we want to believe they can not associate in the way we'd like them too. Therefore it completely pointless to negatively discipline a dog after the fact. If it works it’s completely coincidental. I’ve ready study that say you have mere seconds to time the punishment. After than the dogs is already thinking about a different action and will associate the negative with that action not the action you intended. Anyways I don’t want to turn this into a dog training thread. That’s a topic that you’ll never get 2 people to agree on much less 3 or more.
 
Okay. Am desperate so will try this. We've already done the shock collar. Two dogs, one is great with them, the other was killing and then stopped after being disciplined immediately after hurting the chicken while it was still there. No problem for almost a year....and now in the past three weeks, two chickens dead and one missing. Grrrr.....~! I love this dog (Aussie/American Cur X) however I can't keep the chickens always caged, the dog always on a line or only out when I am right there. If I'm working in the yard, she just explores.

Wish me luck....I'm going to need it! Thanks for the postings.
 
I don't know at this point what direction we are going to go in with our dog. She was shot in the neck with a shotgun by our neighbor because she got loose again when our teens didn't shut the front door and went on his property. She had followed his chickens into his yard from ours before and found his baby chicks coming out of a dog pen he keeps them when she killed one and was caught. That time he came and told DH. We made sure to keep her in the house or on a chain after that, but as I said before she got out so she went over there. $90 later the hole in her neck was glued by the vet and she came home. She had never bothered our chickens when they got out either, so why his...but yesterday she had one of ours slinging it around, but it was fine when DH yelled at her to drop it. If it happens again with a bad outcome, then I guess we'd try tying it on her, but I would wonder if she'd be ok with it anyway because she had played with the dead chick. DH would deffinately be giving her a bath before she came back in.
 
My uncle tried it, only instead of chickens they were shoes. After having something that smelled like foot for a week around her neck, the dog never touched the shoes again.
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We did it when I was a kid with our dingo/blue heeler (australian cattledog) and it worked, she never harmed another chicken.
 
i think the trick is to have it tyed so they cant reach it to eat & leave it there till it really annoys them & they cant get rid of it.
my blue heelers did have a thing for shoes & I still watch them for it but everytime they would take a shoe i would point at the shoe & say in a stern voice 'who done this' & both would cower & show that they had done wrong unless i knew who the culprit was i would grab both by the collar & smack them a couple times with the shoe neither have touched a shoe in months. so i believe that if they did kill a chicken if i smacked them with it with the right tone of voice & then tyed it to them they wouldnt touch another one. but im lucky they are both good with chickens,
 
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i lost a few chicks yesterday and a few are missing. just two left:hit. when i found out, all i saw was a bunch of white feathers and the dog eating the carcass of another. when i came up, she grabbed it and ran off when i went after her. if dogs could talk, she was probobly more likely to say it was hers and i couldn't have it than to say she was sorry. i know because my other dogs were just laying there. no chicken for them. anyway, tying her up with the chicken would simply result in her collar/rope being chewed off AGAIN and her eating it.
i don't care what anybody else says, training a dog not to eat chickens is pointless after its eaten some. fresh meat is all i would see if i did it. good luck to anyone who has both and hope they don't get over the fence. that is how mine died.
 

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