Tylan 50 for respiratory problems

[daxigait]

The fact he is is only partially better could mean that he has a bacterial infection that's resistant to tylosin (Tylan). Could also mean that he has a viral infection. If I had some that were just sneezing I would not treat them... I would only treat the ones that sounded congested.

-Kathy

thanks I will wait on the sneezers, but I have one I am going to give a shot to when they come to roost as she sounded rough when I was out cleaning the coop.
I am worried about the roo as he sits on the roost puffs uo and burries his head under a wing. Sounds rough. I may have to schedule with the avian vet in town since with several sneezing I am worried about it spreading.

 

[casportpony]

Quote: Can you keep him inside were it's warm?

-Kathy

 

[daxigait]

The problem with bringing him inside is that I have chicks in the house that hatched Christmas day. If I bring him in do I risk exposing them? He could stay by the door on the tile, but the chicks are in the guest bathroom which is only 35' or so away. My upstairs is only 45° since I have it shut off, and I have no garage.

 

[izziebean]

I am not sure if I am going to move to a second antibiotic or just see if he recovers or needs to be put down.

Thank you for posting this. I feel so badly but my rooster is not getting better. He is not worse. He's just sneezy.. all the time. He can get better when isolated because he doesn't crow. Then I integrate him back in with the flock and he's crowing then sneezy sneeze. Tonight he looked thinner. I tried to weigh him but I have another sick one so I skipped the weigh in. There isn't anything more I could do for him. I had thoughts that if he wasn't better by Friday.. that I would have him put down.. but now that it's getting closer.. I just don't know. It's so hard to make these decisions. I have felt like a horrible person for these thoughts and it is comforting that someone else feels like this too. I try to rationalize that he is suffering and might not ever get better.. and might be making my other birds sick.

On the hen side, the latest victim was one of the babies I got back in September. The first go around with the bronchitis in October.. they did really well. I thought maybe they were building up antibodies for later and that their young age was helping to protect them. Nope. Nope. I am wrong wrong wrong all the time. Clairbear.. my beautiful blue bearded silkie has gone from 1.15 pounds to 1.00 pounds. I knew last week when I was giving shots that she was weaker than the rest and I gave her 4 shots instead of just 3. I stopped there because when I went to get her that night.. she looked good. She's looked pretty good the past few days, then BAM. This disease hits them so hard and so fast. Even the vet said he can't believe how fast they lose weight. Tonight, I went to get her out of the coop and she fell over. I think this has more to do with her weakness rather than something neurological. She is just so weak. I brought her inside and gave her water with electrolytes. She drank quite a bit on her own. Then I put treats in front of her and she just chowed down. I think she hadn't been able to walk to the food bowl. This makes me so sad. I did give her that fifth shot. ((I know.. I know.. too many shots.. but I really thought she would die within an hour so it was a last ditched effort to save her)). Her crop was very full of treats and her normal food. She ate a lot. I had to hold her side so she could stand up to eat.

Sadly, clairebear was the one that I put in with bridget that last night before she died. I knew clairebear was one of the sweet ones and would help snuggle and keep her warm. It didn't save Bridget and now she is dying. So tonight, clairebear is all by herself in a small little coop directly under the heat lamp in the garage. I won't be putting anyone with her, but she'll be able to hear the hens little chirps all night. I put a huge bowl of food next to her on the right and a huge bowl of water to the left of her. She was drinking and then eating and then drinking and then eating. Then she fell asleep. I don't expect her to make it through the night. Okay.. I usually post a percentage.. I give her 10% chance of being alive in the morning. She is warm and comfortable though.

daxigait.. How are you chickens doing?

ChickenCanoe.. thank you for the insight into the necropsy. I guess the good news for the necropsy I just had done on Paris was done before I had any antibiotics to give to the birds. I can see how that would affect the testing and how it could be worse in the long run.

casportpony.. the IB is viral so I guess that is why he isn't responding to the antibiotics. I think i may separate him out for a longer period of time. This would mean that I would probably have to put down another rooster who has become a bit more aggressive and tried to take out Don when I added him back last time. Reintegration to a flock of just roosters is not easy. They are stubborn little guys.

Thanks everyone for taking the time to keep up with my saga and give such great advice. I just want summer to come back. I want to run around the yard and play with the chickens.. digging up worms and flipping them across the yard. They are such joy then. Right now, such heartache. I keep wondering if it is like this for everyone. If everyone suffers so many losses so quickly. My friends keep saying that they are jealous of me because of the chickens, but they do not see this side. It's heartbreaking to watch another little one not being able to stand up. I pray that Clairebear finds peace soon.

 

[daxigait]

Hi, I am so sorry to hear about Clairbear. I hope she makes it.
My roo is about the same, though last night he was not making much noise for the first time when breathing. We will see if that is progress or decline.
I have a hen that is limping drastically and I can only hope since she does not sound like she has the respiratory infection that she is not developing the leg paralysis that my pullet got that progressed from one leg to another before she died. Several others continue to sneeze and my other roo has sneezed and shook his head for two days though I didn't hear anything last night. My juniors finish oxytetracycline tonight and we will see. So far my baby chicks in the house which I have tried to keep separate washing and changing show no signs of problems.
I know what you mean about the struggle with the thought of culling, but there is a limit to what I can do with time and money on the roo even if he is a Lavender Orpington. I just hate to see anything die much less have to be the one who chooses it based on my own limitations and for worry for the others. I also identify with feeling overwhelmed with the sick birds I can't really help or even know what is really wrong. I did not see them as being this sick and difficult to help. None of my other barnyard animals have been.
Have a great day!
Tamerlee

 

[casportpony]

@izziebean, if what you're dealing with is IB, then yes, that's why Tylan isn't working, but if you also have a secondary infection, like E. coli or pseudomonas, Tylan will not treat those either.

-Kathy

 

[MrsBachbach]

Thank you for posting this. I feel so badly but my rooster is not getting better. He is not worse. He's just sneezy.. all the time. He can get better when isolated because he doesn't crow. Then I integrate him back in with the flock and he's crowing then sneezy sneeze. Tonight he looked thinner. I tried to weigh him but I have another sick one so I skipped the weigh in. There isn't anything more I could do for him. I had thoughts that if he wasn't better by Friday.. that I would have him put down.. but now that it's getting closer.. I just don't know. It's so hard to make these decisions. I have felt like a horrible person for these thoughts and it is comforting that someone else feels like this too. I try to rationalize that he is suffering and might not ever get better.. and might be making my other birds sick.

On the hen side, the latest victim was one of the babies I got back in September. The first go around with the bronchitis in October.. they did really well. I thought maybe they were building up antibodies for later and that their young age was helping to protect them. Nope. Nope. I am wrong wrong wrong all the time. Clairbear.. my beautiful blue bearded silkie has gone from 1.15 pounds to 1.00 pounds. I knew last week when I was giving shots that she was weaker than the rest and I gave her 4 shots instead of just 3. I stopped there because when I went to get her that night.. she looked good. She's looked pretty good the past few days, then BAM. This disease hits them so hard and so fast. Even the vet said he can't believe how fast they lose weight. Tonight, I went to get her out of the coop and she fell over. I think this has more to do with her weakness rather than something neurological. She is just so weak. I brought her inside and gave her water with electrolytes. She drank quite a bit on her own. Then I put treats in front of her and she just chowed down. I think she hadn't been able to walk to the food bowl. This makes me so sad. I did give her that fifth shot. ((I know.. I know.. too many shots.. but I really thought she would die within an hour so it was a last ditched effort to save her)). Her crop was very full of treats and her normal food. She ate a lot. I had to hold her side so she could stand up to eat.

Sadly, clairebear was the one that I put in with bridget that last night before she died. I knew clairebear was one of the sweet ones and would help snuggle and keep her warm. It didn't save Bridget and now she is dying. So tonight, clairebear is all by herself in a small little coop directly under the heat lamp in the garage. I won't be putting anyone with her, but she'll be able to hear the hens little chirps all night. I put a huge bowl of food next to her on the right and a huge bowl of water to the left of her. She was drinking and then eating and then drinking and then eating. Then she fell asleep. I don't expect her to make it through the night. Okay.. I usually post a percentage.. I give her 10% chance of being alive in the morning. She is warm and comfortable though.

daxigait.. How are you chickens doing?

ChickenCanoe.. thank you for the insight into the necropsy. I guess the good news for the necropsy I just had done on Paris was done before I had any antibiotics to give to the birds. I can see how that would affect the testing and how it could be worse in the long run.

casportpony.. the IB is viral so I guess that is why he isn't responding to the antibiotics. I think i may separate him out for a longer period of time. This would mean that I would probably have to put down another rooster who has become a bit more aggressive and tried to take out Don when I added him back last time. Reintegration to a flock of just roosters is not easy. They are stubborn little guys.

Thanks everyone for taking the time to keep up with my saga and give such great advice. I just want summer to come back. I want to run around the yard and play with the chickens.. digging up worms and flipping them across the yard. They are such joy then. Right now, such heartache. I keep wondering if it is like this for everyone. If everyone suffers so many losses so quickly. My friends keep saying that they are jealous of me because of the chickens, but they do not see this side. It's heartbreaking to watch another little one not being able to stand up. I pray that Clairebear finds peace soon.

Since you are dealing with a virus and antibacterials don't help much with that, except in secondary infections, have you considered going a more natural route and trying herbs that have anti-viral properties? Look into garlic which is touted to be highly effective. Another one I have learned of is oil of oregano. I would research to make sure you get the right kind on that one. I would also make sure whatever herb you choose isn't on the list of no no plants for chickens and keep in mind doses mentioned are usually human doses.

http://www.all4naturalhealth.com/antiviral-herbs.html

 

[izziebean]

Since you are dealing with a virus and antibacterials don't help much with that, except in secondary infections, have you considered going a more natural route and trying herbs that have anti-viral properties? Look into garlic which is touted to be highly effective. Another one I have learned of is oil of oregano. I would research to make sure you get the right kind on that one. I would also make sure whatever herb you choose isn't on the list of no no plants for chickens and keep in mind doses mentioned are usually human doses.

http://www.all4naturalhealth.com/antiviral-herbs.html

How would I go about giving a chicken garlic? Would this work on very sick hens?

 

[casportpony]

Quote: Garlic is in the same family as onions and should *not* be fed to birds.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

http://bestbirdfoodever.com/home/wp...ng-parrots-never-feed-garlic-onions-or-leeks/

-Kathy