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[rebrascora]

@timon

Many thanks for the prompt reply and info/tips. It is really appreciated. It helps so much to get info from another lay person on such matters.

I've just done a bit more research (You Tube is wonderful!!) and found that some people have successfully used superglue to seal the crop up after surgery instead of stitches, which I really like the idea of. I'm a big fan of Germolene but would not necessarily have thought of using it on a chicken. I have Hibiscrub (Chlorohexidine) that I use for the horses, so will probably use that on the inside and just a bit of Germolene on the outer wound perhaps. If I decide to go for it, I might be tempted to leave the outer skin open to drain, just in case there is some leakage from the crop incision. Seeing the surgery being done in such detail has certainly given me more confidence to tackle it myself if I feel that is the way I have to go.

Cheers

Barbara

 

[Yorkshire Coop]

Hi Yorkshire Coop

Great thanks and hope you are.

Have an outbreak of AF 25 miles away but am being pragmatic about it ha ha.

Glad you finally have the part for your car Barbara.

Hugs to everyone x

Great to hear you are ok
All going well being back at work?
on the flu being so close.

@Yorkshire Coop


Hi Kim

I am hopeful! There is a part on it's way, which the man (a different man from another company) assures me is the correct one. I am reserving judgement until I see it. The good news is that this one is cheaper at £35 incl P&P as oppose to £54 for the other one, so keeping fingers crossed it is the right one as that is 10x less than it would have cost to have it professionally repaired. Let's hope I don't have any aggravation getting a refund for the other one I sent back. It was a glorious day here today but still didn't get MeMe out. I've got a sick pekin pullet with an impacted crop. With all the aggravation trying to get the car sorted I didn't spot it until it's really bad. Her crop is huge but quite squishy and the weight of it is tipping her over. No obvious smell and she still wants to eat, so don't think it is sour and I do feed them some fermented feed, which should prevent that anyway. Thankfully I've been through this before with Portia, so I have some experience of treating it and at least she is still pooping a little. She has lost a huge amount of condition though and her comb is turning purple, so I'm hoping I have caught it in time. She is getting 4 quite intensive massages a day and just liquid feed, but I've had to set to and make yet another cage for her as everything else is in use. She is in the house overnight as she needs warmth but I put her out in the sun today where she could see her pals. Thank goodness the weather has at least been fine. If it was wet or snowy, that would have made things much more difficult.

Went to see the Strictly Tour last night which was a real treat. Had great seats but my hands are sore today from clapping!! Managed to get 2 longer screws for my poly tunnel today so might even get that finished tomorrow if Ian can find time to help me move the frame. I had a rethink on the orientation of it and it needs turning through 180degrees and moving back about 10 yards. It will not be easy with it being so large but better to move it before I cover, it as even a light wind could see the pair of us go sailing off with it once the cover is on.

Must go jump in the shower now and then head up the road to Ian's. Fingers crossed I am a happy bunny tomorrow night with the correct part in my possession! 

Best wishes

Barbara 

Hi Barbara
I hope this new part fits ok as per you post below Also that they give your money back from the original place! Especially as it's their fault and the fella got it wrong! Hope it all goes well with the little Pekin, if it's got that bad I would certainly go ahead and open it up. You really don't have nothing to lose by doing this. Yes you tube is great for vids on things like this. I have also seen it take place on the "Yorkshire Vet" TV programme, it was a very interesting watch.
I really do hope it goes ok

How's your hands after the strictly tour? Sounds like you had a fab time Dancing is not really my thing but my nana never missed an episode and really enjoyed watching it.
Yes don't move the tunnel with the cover! I may have to start calling Dorothy if you do!

@Yorkshirecoop All well here thanks, just battling bored cooped up chucks & mud filled pens...oh, and a 12 year old daughter who keeps vomiting and being sent home from school because of it but then drives me mad because she is fine ....hope everything is going good for you? Just noticed your earlier post of you out riding..great to see what people look like!! I've put myself (& my better half) up in my profile pic..

@rebrascora Fingers crossed that you have the correct car part...my car had £490 spent on it just before Xmas...thank God my o/h paid for it. I'd love to watch Strictly live, v. jealous!

@PaulaMc Ooooohhh, that AV is close, keep those furries locked away xx

Oh no hope she's feeling better soon being sick is not nice She should go to Charlie's school, their answer for everything is paracetamol and to keep them there. They once called me to take him some in but as soon as I saw him I knew he wasn't well so had an argument with her and brought him home, needless to say he threw up all over the place! But she was insistent that all he needed was paracetamol and needed to stay in school.
Not too bad here thanks, usual rubbish of life but as they say that's life! Thanks on the pic, not one of my most flattering...........

https://apple.news/AeI01SKkpTzqxByxeQ55khg
Be careful everyone

I'm guessing these are the laying hens for pheasant breeding. I was meant to be incubating some for the other half but with all this eggs maybe tough to get :/

 

[rebrascora]

This is me being a Happy Bunny. I fitted the part this afternoon and I'm now able to toot my little horn and no air bag warning light on the dash. Hooray!

Tomorrows major task will have to be surgery I think, I can't let her go any longer. I've already told SO he is acting veterinary assistant and will have to view the You Tube footage as well before we start, so he can keep me right. Need to get a new tube of Super Glue, a new head torch cos I just broke mine the other day, I've got a scalpel and have a needle and dental floss on standby. Would be lovely if she miraculously recovers overnight but I just can't see it happening. She is refusing to drink today and wouldn't eat the mushy gruel I was giving her so I was really thinking she had given up, until I dropped a large crumb from a slice of apple stolen cake I was eating and she gobbled it up, so I've given her apple stolen soaked in warm water and half a slice of bread soaked in warm water and she wolfed both down, but will probably come back up later. She did still do a couple of small normal poops overnight but apart from her crop which is larger than a tennis ball, her body must only weigh a few ounces, she is so skinny.

Hope I can post another Happy Bunny tomorrow to celebrate fixing her.
@Yorkshire Coop
Kim I'm afraid I haven't managed to get MeMe out yet again.

I think you are right about pheasant hatching eggs....10,000 breeding birds is a heck of a lot to lose.

Keep your fingers crossed for me.

Barbara

 

[Rudies Roost]

@Yorkshirecoop My daughter is all well now thanks...she managed the last 2 days without an illness call out. Annoying thing was she was fine, she had a cold and for some reason the excess mucus in her tummy (why she has to snuffle it all down rather than blow her nose, I'll never know!) makes her vomit. She's always had this problem but no...school won't have it.

@rebrascora Yay! Congrats on fiting the car part...good job! Best of luck for the surgery, I admire you giving it a go, I'm not brave enough at all



What a shame to cull 10,000 beautiful pheasants. We have a pheasant farm by me, they're all too often splatted on the road but even then you can see their beauty and what a huge loss of revenue for them too. I feel terrible for the owners of the farm, what with farming being in the state it's currently in, this could not come at a worse time

Have a good weekend all, I have a wonderful little job of a Self Assessment tax return to deal with tomorrow before the deadline is up on Tuesday (nothing like leaving it till the last minute!!)

Sasha xx

 

[timon]

I definitely read that keeping the external skin wound open by a stitch, or about 1cm if you're using glue, at the bottom of the wound is best to help it drain. But you have to be careful with infection getting in. we'd use gauze and a plaster on a person ... I can't see putting a plaster on a chicken working....
I only had germolene as antiseptic cream, so I filled the wound with it. I expect you can cover/fill what isn't glued with any anti-bacterial cream. And try to keep her clean and dry till the wound scabs over.

Am glad the car is sorted, but sorry you have to operate. Good luck.

You just have to be brave knowing it's better for them if you can get through it, and hoping they're strong enough to recover.

Definitely better than euthanasia.

Impacted crop sounds complicated - more complicated than a clumsy Roo, but not impossible if you're brave enough.

 

[timon]

@Yorkshirecoop

My daughter is all well now thanks...

What a shame to cull 10,000 beautiful pheasants.

Have a good weekend all, I have a wonderful little job of a Self Assessment tax return to deal with tomorrow before the deadline is up on Tuesday (nothing like leaving it till the last minute!!)

Sasha xx

Glad your little one is doing well.

I had just assumed that there was help for farms losing birds.... I guess there isn't. That's a lot of birds to loose. Plus the turkey farm before Christmas- is there no insurance for it??

Oh No - tax return deadline !!! Thanks for the reminder.

 

[rebrascora]

@Rudies Roost

Have to say Sasha, I would rather do open heart surgery than a tax return. Hopefully crop surgery will be a doddle by comparison to both of those options. Can't say I'm not a little daunted by the prospect of doing it and will be gutted if it goes wrong and/or I have to euthanize her, but also quite excited by the thought that I may manage to fix her.
Just given her another half a slice of wholemeal bread soaked in warm water and she has wolfed it down and pooped quite a bit more on my carpet the little oik(I had her on a towel but she backed up and kindly pooped off the edge when I wasn't paying enough attention), so maybe I might not have to do it after all. Her crop is huge and tight now though but she looks a better colour tonight for having eaten so much today and keeping her warm in the house is definitely helping..

 

[rebrascora]

@timon

Thanks for the encouragement and the suggestion to just leave a small opening at the bottom of the wound and pack it with Germolene.. Both are very much appreciated.

 

[Rudies Roost]

@Rudies Roost


Have to say Sasha, I would rather do open heart surgery than a tax return. Hopefully crop surgery will be a doddle by comparison to both of those options. Can't say I'm not a little daunted by the prospect of doing it and will be gutted if it goes wrong and/or I have to euthanize her, but also quite excited by the thought that I may manage to fix her.
Just given her another half a slice of wholemeal bread soaked in warm water and she has wolfed it down and pooped quite a bit more on my carpet the little oik(I had her on a towel but she backed up and kindly pooped off the edge when I wasn't paying enough attention), so maybe I might not have to do it after all. Her crop is huge and tight now though but she looks a better colour tonight for having eaten so much today and keeping her warm in the house is definitely helping..  

Ha ha!! My tax return isn't too bad, just a year's worth of petrol receipts to add up month by month, a few other expenses and minus it off my total earnings. I'll have it done in 2 hours or so, I'm fairly organised all year so it's all together. I just hate numbers, I find them very boring....my Dad is an accountant and would do it for me but I must be independent!!

@timon You're welcome on the reminder!! Happy accounting!

 

[Yorkshire Coop]

@rebrascora

Hi Barbara,
I'm not surprised your a happy bunny! It is wonderful to read that you have your car sorted out and you can now happily toot toot the horn! I'm so pleased it has worked out for you in the end, is it booked now for the test? That's just reminded me, I need to tax my van
Fingers crossed it all goes well if you dont have to perform the crop surgery tomorrow but it sounds promising with what you posted earlier about her eating the soaked bread and pooping on your carpet! You never know it may pass and you won't need to intervene
Moving them indoors sure does help, my mother hen has been on deaths door a couple of times (bullying & a weird head twitch) but after a few days inside she has always pulled round. Central heating sure does have a lot to answer for
I'm sure MeMe won't be worried about not getting out! I know Harry never is LOL! I should have gone today really but goodness it was cold and by the time I got all the mucking out done and horses fetched in I was ready for a warm through. Maybe tomorrow if I can find a victim to come with me

Fingers crossed Barbara that you don't have to do the surgery but if you do I hope it all goes well.
Have a good weekend and catch you soon.

Kim xx