UltraKibble

[destinduck]

Im all for that. I agree with Peeps entire post. 50 miles away for me though . Kermit If your feed is good it will make it. Time tells all. I hope it does.

 

[zazouse]

When the time comes and i have to pen my peahens i will give it a try.
I can see why most places do not carry it, it is high dollar just like calf mana but it is a supplement and should last a good while depending on how much they are fed, so it has to have a long shelf life or it will go bad and the company will loose money.

How much should be fed to the peas?
My peas don't eat much at one time they prefer to forage and eat bits at a time.

It's a hard kibble like pet food. Its shelf life is ~ 45-65% longer than that of soft pellets and mashes. Just store it in a dry, cool place away from rodents and it's good to go for a few months.
Free ranging birds- I just put it out for the yard birds in a 1-10 ratio and the peafowl come and go as they please- take what the lay hens are eating and when I have a moment to drink them in I'll bring a handful and throw it out as healthy treat. The bag has all the specific ration information right on it for peafowl of different species.

Thank you

 

[Resolution]

-Zazouse- that's 1 part kibble to 10 parts scratch grain. That's what I feed free ranging peafowl except during nesting season and hatching season then kibble is increased exponentially by ~ 25% or more depending on the species and breed, age and condition of the specific bird.

 

[bdfive]

PLEASE TAKE NOTE!! UltraKibble is not available on the shelf at Tractor Supply but it is available by order. It's so new they may tell you it's not but you make them look on the computer and tell them people are ordering it. I had to get the manager to find it. I paid $24 for the 15 lb bag which is a lot cheaper then I could find it anywhere else. After ordering, it was in my hand 3 days later. I didn't pay for it until I picked up the 2 bags. I've done a lot of reading and am convinced this is an excellent product. Some breeders purchase a large enough quantity from the mills they can have special feed mixes. That isn't an option for many of us. I feel blessed my birds can now eat healthier.

Regarding samples....perhaps there is a misunderstanding. I'd heard there were samples available so checked the website. What is referred to as "Samples" are actually a variety of forage cakes and UK being sold for a reduction of $20 to $25 so people can try them.

 

[Resolution]

KERMIT. I have followed this thread for some time and offered no opinion and I still am not offering one on U K. I have heard all of the talk and jive about who was offered " samples " and yada yada yada : I was,, but I guess I was not a big boy breeder then as they never showed up.. Now what brings me to this thread is the statement about "hatin peafolk" and if you want to get political like you did, you now sound like Obomma.. If you have things to say about the UPA,, you can say them to me as I have been involved a lot in the last 15 yrs or so and have first hand info about the infighting that you claim is going on ... Name names.............. other wise it is no different than what your saying on the site about the other people in this thread. Dont drag the UPA into your fight here as the UPA has over the years offered you the chance and tickets to be a part of the UPA.. You speak of them as a dumb bunch of lowlifes and say no one is smart enough to even know about UK. I can go on more but I think you get my irratation when you bad mouth the UPA and all you go on is the same info that you bad mouth deerman about.... just hearsay,,,,,,,, I sign off as one of those bible and guns people down here in the hills of the Missouri Ozarks... connerhills

I know where that's coming from Connerhills and I feel for you. Your buddy Deerman who's a card carrying member of the UPA -have a word with him about his representation of your organization. You should know full well as you've been reading this thread for some time that I don't have an axe to grind with the UPA. You know darned well the kind of smack talk that gets spit around in some of these circles George. I may be dumb but I am not deaf. Hatin Peafolk- they tore down the organization more than once and they're the reason so many people stopped being members. I guess folks forget Dale- maybe he's not a big time peafowl breeder, or Elton, or Norm or gosh- I could go on. I even recall writing and illustrating an article for UPA back in the 90's? I've been following the UPA since its inception. That is the most fighting group of hobbyists you could ever ask for. I thought the pheasant folk were crazy... As I wrote here, everyone in the UPA isn't a hater but there have been plenty that are and I should know. I get plenty of flack from them and have for Years. Ask Anybody that's messed with peafowl over the last twenty years and they'll give you an earful. There are so many people that are just plain mean, vindictive, deceitful and cowardly and that's just the guys on Wall Street.


The term "hatin peafolk" just came at me like a song lyric a moment ago- gave me a chuckle. If I had a chocolate chip cookie for every groundless insult I've been tagged with by a hatin peafolk - I'd be fatter than my ex wife's lawyers. But it should go without saying that all peafowl people are not hatin peafolk- you've got your luvin peafolk- your indifferent peafolk- your awesome peafolk,-apathetic peafolk, salty peafolk, prickly peafolk, confederate peafolk, yankee peafolk -libertarian peafolk, chain smoking drunkard peafolk, mystery gender peafolk-saintly peafolk, professional peafolk--- there's just a bunch of different species.
I get a little carried away with my "sense of humour" but when I'm on a roll..


And for the record- I'm a dumb lowlife from back country so I take some offense to that as being some sort of insult.

But while we're at it, I don't recall ever being approached by the UPA- I could be wrong -there's no doubt I spread myself too thin at times but that's not the signal I recall receiving.

I always thought I'd be involved with the UPA some day. The last time I bothered, there were glitches in the system. I never received my magazines, my name never appeared on the membership list and it was pretty clear that there was some issue about a convention if memory serves me correctly- true that was back -boy a very long time ago but I was a member and even rejoined once in 2000. Same glitch. By the looks of things that the UPA is a very different organization. I hadn't even visited the website for I don't know how many years-at least ten until just a few minutes ago. I'm sorry if you took umbrage with what I had to say about the UPA- I may have been flippant. But I do respect the world's only peafowl association. How could I not?

I didn't say that no one at the UPA was smart enough to even know about UltraKibble. What I said is that:

1. None of the "big time peacock breeders" ( as mentioned by Deerman) has ever received a sample of any of my products- except for those that still use it religiously- with the exception of Sid- and I have no idea why Sid doesn't. He's never told me why. A sample being a ton or more was something that we did during development phases of the different formulas of kibble and I was very involved with all aspects of research and development. It's very expensive to mill 20 tons of feed at a time. I don't even get free feed. Someone has to pay for it (me) so I keep a close eye on these things.

2. Let me reiterate what I stated earlier. None of the "big time peacock breeders" in the UPA knows anything about UltraKibble as it's not been available until fairly recently and it's only been distributed nationally for less than a few months. Again, there were other formulas of resolution kibbles- we even make fish food- and samples of one product went out to a very small handful of breeders. All but one of those breeders continue to use our products to this day. No large samples were ever sent out of UltraKibble save for what we did inhouse and with a few poultry farmers.

How does that work a nerve? Pretty contentious stuff- not really. A misunderstanding but not a real disagreement.



The UPA is an exciting organization- and its had its fair share of dust ups- plenty of them. I haven't bad mouthed anyone much less Deerman who has been my personal proctologist on this forum for years. He's representing the UPA on this thread. I asked for names of the people he was talking about that had experience with this product. None are forthcoming- just hearsay. How can it be that I'm bad talking him? I'm just pushing that old ping pong ball back in his court. And he like many people from that gild have given me the potus treatment from the first day. After a while you stop taking it personally and have a laugh about it. For the record, I'm a Ron Paul supporter.

As for you not receiving samples- until a few years ago my managing partners - the folks that ran the company- let's just say things weren't running too smoothly for a very long while. But these folks at C&S are STELLAR- you could not ask for a more competent company. They are conservative, ethical, professional and just awesome teammates all around. I'll see to it the UPA knows how much we appreciate them and want their business. Though frankly what I've experienced and read here over the years suggests that any effort on my part to bridge a divide within the American peafowl community would be a bit like Sinead O'Conner jetting to Minnesota to put on a concert in a nightclub owned by Prince.

 

[Trefoil]

Push UK in the product review part of the forum.

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[featherhead]

Ditto

 

[bdfive]

Have I read lime can be worked into the dirt/sand/mulch floor of the peafowl pens? I've used DE but it's so expensive and I have 1260 sq ft of ground to keep sanitary and free of insects like mites, fleas, etc. What other products can help that won't harm the peafowl? We chipped a lot of what's referred to as Hill Country Mountain Ceder so I try to keep a thin layer of that on the ground. Also helps with the droppings being easy to scoop up with my dustpan and paint scrapper. YEP! I go out a couple times a day and get the big stuff up tossing it out under the Live Oak trees for fertilizer. In fact I've become eccentric sometimes walking away with the dustpan needing both hands muttering to myself all excitingly "Wow, good load", LOL!!! I even fuss at the birds to back up and not step in a pile, haha!!! The birds and I talk to each other the whole time I'm out there. I'm always sad when they stop thier baby chirping. Once again, all suggestions are very much appreciated.

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[Resolution]

BD5 DE goes a very long way. A tiny bit of it mixed into lime and wood ashes is what I keep on the soil and add to the dust wallows with clean sand. You're keeping a very clean enclosure. I'd just pay close attention to the perches themselves. Take some pinesol to them every month. That helps keep some traffic down. Check and see if there is any DE in whatever you are feeding your peafowl and if there are any spices with volatile oils like cinnamon or lavender included in the ingredients. The birds tend to clean their oil glands with their bills and if what you're feeding them has topical solutions included in the formulation, it ends up being preened throughout the plumage and this is probably the best (and most economical, and most natural) preventative against large parasite loads getting established to begin with.


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[deerman]

hey dipstick

Conversation between Resolution and you

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Resolution
Today at 8:56 am​

Nice spin. The gentlemanly thing to do when you've been caught in a fib is to admit the truth and move on. Instead you've ramped up your nonsense. You're the expert on the UPA and I'm in the know about UK. You have some UPA blackbook of people I've sent samples to. There isn't one. You've actually done a disservice by wearing the UPA like some kind of flag. I love your parting shot making this into some sort of battle between the UPA and me to divert the heat off your stupid ***. I just asked you for evidence and you haven't got any because the lot of you talk a whole lot of nonsense.This is not now nor has it ever been about my products. I know exactly what you and your buddies have against me and so do you. I've never instigated a single problem with you not even once. You have never stopped. You're like a turkey on a milk bucket so stop playing the victim already.