Unusually high mortality rates in chicks for 2013

I would only offer pure water for the first week. Then diluted vitamins. Save a chick sounds good, but I would dilute that 1/2 the dose as well.

Chick sales have increased enormously in the last 5 years or so. Probably close to 1,000%. To keep up with demands, I'll bet hatcheries are getting eggs from less quality hens and overworked hens. There are many reasons for deformity, death, and illness if the hens are in poor health or overworked.

One of the things that happens every year that causes dead and dying chicks is that people order chicks when it's too cold. Heatpacks and larger orders can only do so much. Cold stress will kill them. But people keep ordering when it's too cold . Day old chicks Need temps around 90 degrees. How long is shipping exposing them to far from that? Hatcheries' guidelines mostly go by average temps. But sometimes it's just not safe enough.

More chicks each year are added to established flocks, flocks that contain chickens from various sellers. Even quarantined, they are contaminated. Larger flocks mean more carriers of more diseases. And more concentration of illness.

Hatchery chicks are hatched at the hatchery, sorted , and shipped leaving no contact with older hens that have been exposed. NPIP certification covers most diseases that can be carried thru an egg.

A Closed flock has far far less risk. Only hatchery day old chicks, or incubating eggs yourself from an NPIP certified seller. And never buying chicks/hens from other sellers. Sad but true. If you can't incubate, get a few non exposed silkies. They will incubate and raise many chicks of any breed.

I commited myself to a closed flock. Broke that commitment with one pullet 3+ years ago, and since that time have had multiple deaths from Marek's. It only took one chicken. I lost many many chickens and a batch of 10 chicks .
 
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Q/"Hatchery chicks are hatched at the hatchery's, sorted and shipped leaving no contact with older hens that have been exposed. NPIP certification covers most diseases that can be carried thru an egg."
Not all hatcheries test for MG and MS these can be passed through the egg. Our regulations in MD do not require testing for either of these in order to be NPIP certified.
 
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So much great info seminolewind! I have been thinking about a closed flock, especially since I have sustainability in mind.

Very interesting, weechickenhawk. I guess it's super hard to be completely safe.
 
Q/"Hatchery chicks are hatched at the hatchery's, sorted and shipped leaving no contact with older hens that have been exposed. NPIP certification covers most diseases that can be carried thru an egg."
Not all hatcheries test for MG and MS these can be passed through the egg. Our regulations in MD do not require testing for either of these in order to be NPIP certified.

I think it's hatcheries that will only buy from NPIP egg farms. The best thing to do is ask. I don't know anything at all about MS and MG. Not even the symptoms!
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I think we all have to remember that any information on this website is not 100% correct at all times because chickens have been either worthless, and/or not thoroughly researched in the past. People keep them for years nowdays, not just until they are used for meat . They have been bred for high production, not longevity, not health and immunity,

There is quite a bit of misinformation everywhere, and not on purpose. But this is the best place for information, scientific, or people helping people. I can only say that most information on this board should start with "most of the time", and my postings should start with that as well.

If you can Weechickenhawk, can you post some information about hatcheries and what testing do most do, or most of them don't?
 
So much great info seminolewind! I have been thinking about a closed flock, especially since I have sustainability in mind.

Very interesting, weechickenhawk. I guess it's super hard to be completely safe.
Healthwise , it's the best you can do. Not guaranteed, but close enough. I'm so so sorry I broke my own rule.
 
I think it's hatcheries that will only buy from NPIP egg farms. The best thing to do is ask. I don't know anything at all about MS and MG. Not even the symptoms!
idunno.gif


I think we all have to remember that any information on this website is not 100% correct at all times because chickens have been either worthless, and/or not thoroughly researched in the past. People keep them for years nowdays, not just until they are used for meat . They have been bred for high production, not longevity, not health and immunity,

There is quite a bit of misinformation everywhere, and not on purpose. But this is the best place for information, scientific, or people helping people. I can only say that most information on this board should start with "most of the time", and my postings should start with that as well.

If you can Weechickenhawk, can you post some information about hatcheries and what testing do most do, or most of them don't?

Yep, I know nothing about them either!
But of course I want to learn!
 
We've gotten 32 chicks from hatcheries this year. 22 of those are polish. We've lost 11 of the polish chicks and none of the others. None of our chicks have shown any symptoms other than just refusing food/water shortly before death. Then they just lay down and sleep until they die.
We do a few drops of ACV, grapefruit seed extract, and electrolytes in the water. We've tried plain water and lost 4 out of 4 in that batch. With the additives we've lost 7 out of 18. So I couldn't really make a guess either way if it helps or hurts.

We get 6 replacements this week. I think I'll have some corid on hand just in case.
 
We've gotten 32 chicks from hatcheries this year. 22 of those are polish. We've lost 11 of the polish chicks and none of the others. None of our chicks have shown any symptoms other than just refusing food/water shortly before death. Then they just lay down and sleep until they die. 
We do a few drops of ACV, grapefruit seed extract, and electrolytes in the water. We've tried plain water and lost 4 out of 4 in that batch. With the additives we've lost 7 out of 18. So I couldn't really make a guess either way if it helps or hurts. 

We get 6 replacements this week. I think I'll have some corid on hand just in case.


Sorry to hear about your losses! :(
Losing so many of the same breed makes me think there was something wrong with the hatchery's polish stock.
I lost my polish chick too, but I only had one. :(

In years past the water additives have never had any bad side effects so I really don't think they are the main problem. Things like the garlic in my water may have aggravated a pre existing problem.
 

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