Update on my Orpingtons Pics

[MissPrissy]

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These are Orpingtons. There is no mix. They are pure blue/black/splash orpingtons. The rooster is a splash. None of these are mottled.

 

[BamaChicken]

Thank you all for the compliments.
M. Prissy the Roo actually is the mottled. He does look splashish but his black is more distinct. He was a black chick and was black until 3 months old . Like a butterfly he went through a transfomation. I was surprised at how white he turn. His mother was not that light. This is not the splash Roo that was over most of the hens. I have since you got chicks given the splash to a friend and have a black in with the blacks. I have the mottled over a black and his mother who is now broody. She is a great looking hen so since this is a project even if we get nothing but blacks, if they are good and large and typey we can still use them
Just a note of interest. I have hatched a chick that seems to be feathering out white. I noticed it when it hatched that it didn't look splash. As I was reading The Orpington Fowl Book and looking at the genetics of the originals, according to their formulas this is completely possible to throw a white.
The blues were created by breeding black Cock to white hen. I found that interesting.

 

[BamaChicken]

I do reccomend that book. The Orpington Fowl. It has the complete history of the Orpingtons and lots of diagrams and pictures and pointers on type. Shows all the original chickens types used to create the first Orpingtons and their evolment. They used a completey different formula of breeds to create the Buff. I didn't know that until I read the book. It is written by two men in England who are considered experts on the Breed.

Oh and yes the I gave the broody thing some RIR eggs to. I put a few pipping eggs under a silkie who has been sitting fo rever to see if I could ge ther off the nest. Didn't work Those poor chicks were following the silkie rooster around and he would look after them daytime but when he got ready to roost he left them and they were getting cold. I finally took them and put them in my neighbors brooder box today.

 

[halo]

Julie, as beautiful as that roo is, Im not sure he truly qualifies as mottled. The definition of mottled, from the Standard of Perfections, is a basic black bird with black feathers tipped with white. Could be actually be a splash?

 

[MissPrissy]

That is why I thought the roo was a splash. The definition of mottled is far different from his look. Now I am confused.

 

[gumpsgirl]

How sweet! You're chickens are all beautiful!

 

[BamaChicken]

Miss Prissy and Halo, I truly know what you mean aabout him being not your definition of Mottled. I have looked at the feather patterns and it is not the same. More like Pied or Spangled but according to genetic studies I have looked at out of the same gene.
This is him at nearly four months old

I can call it the Pied project if it makes everyone feel better. I have no idea how things are going to turn out with this project. Next year I might have a better idea.
Here is a picture of him as a chick. The pink toed one in the front. He was black. I know this is a freak gene. The man who had the mother thought she was mottled. As i have been studying the feather pattern is not right for mottled but more like the Spangled Hamburg pattern which is still out of the same type of gene I think.
I am perfectly willing to call the color anything that is appropriate but these chickens have not been made from blues. Any suggestions on a new color name?

Here is the mother who was breed to large Black Cock who produced my Roo.

 

[halo]

How bout Bama orps???

 

[BamaChicken]

Okay, BLue / Black/Splash and Bama .

 

[BamaChicken]

M Prissy, here is a picture of the splash when he was about 4 months

Here is sthe Bama at he same age

The Bama gets whiter the older he gets.

The splash was lite and got dark areas with age
The bama was black and has turn lite with age.
Of course his mother molted and turned nealy completely black.\\

Another pic of the BAMA made a few months ago

Another Bama photo

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Then here is the Splash that has fathered so many chicks this fall and Spring.