UPDATE...VERY DISAPPOINTED...1st Eggs .... 2nd order arrived! YAY

[Dipsy Doodle Doo]

...but I bet they didn't xray the box

Tomorrow is a new day

Good luck with all the eggs, however it works out.

Lisa

 

[Frizzles]

Oh, I'm sorry! Bad packing job if you ask me. Every order from 3 different sellers on Ebay have come individually bubble wrapped and taped, then bubble wrap around the carton and carton put inside a box full of styrafoam peanuts! That must have been very disapointing for you.

 

[MaransGuy]

Ya know, out of all of the time I have spent on this group, this is the first time that I have been really amazed at the behaviour of some people. Did the shipper kick in the side of a box? Did the shipper put it under such great stress that the sides wrinkled? UNDER the tape? NO. If any one of you can wrap your eggs so you will NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER have a result like this I commend you! Like I said before, I own a mail order company and we actually ship out a lot of live, tropical plants, using both UPS and USPS. We ship over 15,000 packages a year and have done so for 15 years. I would call that a pretty good sampling of carriers. When we ship, each pot has shredded wax paper secured around the plant, it is wrapped in several layers of newsprint, it is then held in place in the box with more packing paper. During the winter we line each box with 3/4" styro insulation and use a heat pack as well. Normally, 99% of our parcels arrive in good shape, all across the country. However, even taking the great care that we do based on the many years of experience that we have, we still have had sides of boxes crushed in- flattening the contents (complete with boot prints on the side), boxes shaken so badly everything has come loose from their pots, boxes crushed down as if a heavy weight was stacked on top (this is what appears to have happened to that egg box to me), heavy-duty plastic pots shattered inside of a box, spilling the plant contents throughout the box, as well as all of the typical broken items, crushed corners, etc... I have seen, with my own eyes, carriers from a certain company literally THROWING boxes across a room to get them closer to a truck. 5 feet? HAH! Try more like 25 feet, at least. These guys were simply launching the things and there was no one at the other end to catch them!

The FACT of the matter is, you can test ship, pack with bubble wrap, put em into a stainless steel box for that matter, but you will not be able to prevent damage to EVERY SHIPMENT. So, to shred this egg shipper, claim that they do not know what they are doing, say they have no business shipping, AFTER they offered to replace the eggs immediately and at no cost, based only on the limited knowledge about this person any of you have is very disturbing. I am certainly not omnicient enough to know every detail of the package as I would never be so arrogant to assume that looking at one little picture would tell me anything. Now, if that box had arrived in perfect shape, not a scratch on it, and all the eggs were broken inside, then I would heartily agree that it was probably a poor packing job. But from what I can make out from the photo, the box looks pretty well mangled and the fact that any egg made it though there in one piece amazes me. If you want to continue ripping this person apart and condemning them over one photo, go for it, you're obviously far more perfect than I am. I would also hate to ever ship any of you eggs as well.

Richard

 

[jab91864]

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[MissPrissy]

Nobody I have delt with packs a box like SpeckledHen. Her wrapping is amazing.

 

[chickenlover210]

where did you get the eggs?

PS I feel so bad

 

[Leslie In North Pole]

Two points:

1) on the staggered hatch... Come day 18 lay paper towels over the new eggs and under the older eggs so when the hatching chicks get out and get messy, you can keep the goo off of the the new eggs and they can still "breath". After the hatch is over, take the later hatch out, wrap them in a towel and place in a really warm area while you clean your bator. With my styro, I usually take the lid off and set it heat element down on a counter top so it retains heat and clean the bottom. I then wipe the windows free of chick dust, fill a large rubber made disposable container with a lid full of very hot water and put the bator back together, placing the eggs back inside a little ways away from the container. The radiant heat will quickly bring your bator back to temp. I have had excellent hatch rates doing this. Edited to add: to compensate for the humidity... let the humidity drop down to 30 or so for a day or two just before day 18 on the second batch and then up it when you should.

2) on the shipping... My very first eggs that I ever received in the mail were shipped in wood shavings and wrapped in paper towels. All made it and four hatched out under a broody. It was such a positive experience that I did it again. Since then, I have had eggs sent and wrapped in every manner you can name... bubble wrap, newspaper, paper towels, just egg cartons and that is from people on the original BYC, Ebay, Eggbid, and yahoo Egg Groups. I found it isn't what the eggs are wrapped in that necessarily makes for a successful shipment. How the box is handled and how secure the eggs are in the box is more important.

Many people aren't comfortable with wrapping in bubble wrap, they feel it won't allow the eggs to breath properly. This is often discussed in some of the serious hatching groups on yahoo. The pictures you showed looked exactly like some that I received last year. In most cases, the eggs had been bubble wrapped, in cartons, in packing peanuts, some with labels on the outside, some not marked. It did not matter. This must be a decent seller, they are wanting to send you more at no charge, that shows you something. These things happen.

Oh, and for everyone one who thinks the labels are bad... I have had eggs "babied" by the postal service because of labels like "handle with care" "hatching eggs" and the like. To the point where I have been called in the middle of the night to be told eggs have arrived, on Sundays, and even holidays. There is no sure fire way to guarantee that eggs will arrive safe. I have also received boxes that look as though they have been dropped of a cliff, and others that looked perfect until you opened them and found 80% of the eggs destroyed. When I find the smuck who hates eggs at the postal service, I am going to smack him around because he is giving everyone else a bad name..

I will tell you that newspaper is MY least favorite packing material, I do prefer something more secure that won't condense if one egg does break. Kentuckysilkies hooked me on the double box method, I feel more secure thinking that it would take a tank to flatten the box. It isn't fool proof but nothing is.

I would ask the seller to use a different packing medium then newspaper... just to be on the safe side as that angry postal work seems to work somewhere between your two addresses...

Here is an example of bubble wrapped eggs, the chick on my head in the photo is one of two chicks that survived this box. This package was sent by a very popular seller on this board who is often commended on their shipping, it just proves that it can happen to anyone.

 

[speckledhen]

I had a major headache yesterday and in fact, ended up in the ER last night, or I would have written a bit more in my post.
I have gotten eggs packed several different ways, all got to me successfully. There's more than one way to ship eggs that is satisfactory. I have a way I think is the most "gorilla-resistant"; I almost said "gorilla-proof", but perhaps no package is actually "gorilla-proof". ALL shipments do have the possibility, depending on the treatment they receive, to arrive damaged. I've never seen extreme damage exactly like the eggs in that picture, but I dont see that the box is damaged enough to cause that, however, I may not have a good angle in the picture. It was nice of the seller to offer to send more eggs. Hopefully, she'll make an effort to make the box "gorilla-resistant" if you get more from her. It's possible that she really doesn't know how to pack well; doesn't make her a horrible person, but it does mean she needs to do better.

 

[Wildsky]

Everyone is assuming the condition of the BOX in those pictures is due to the recent shippment of eggs. To ME - it looks like that box was NOT brand new to start off with - its been used before - so don't look at the wrinkles on that box and assume it was BRAND new to start with, and beaten to death on the recent trip.

I bet the OP can tell, that it was a box used before ? ? ? other stickers etc... .on the box?

 

[jab91864]

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