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Hey, I've been lurking and wanting chickens forever. My neighbor is getting out if the chicken hobby so she has offered her four birds and coop to us for free! Hooray! I'm so excited. I think she said they are all RIR and they are about two years old. Oh,and we are in SLC near the airport.
 
Hey, I've been lurking and wanting chickens forever. My neighbor is getting out if the chicken hobby so she has offered her four birds and coop to us for free! Hooray! I'm so excited. I think she said they are all RIR and they are about two years old. Oh,and we are in SLC near the airport.

You will fall in love with chickens...and us.
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2 yr. olds? They may start slowing down on egg production. If they do, remember me. I have a couple of great egg layers that will be replaced with some that I got a couple of months ago. They will only be around 14 months old. Laying every day right now..with a light. A red sexlink is one, can't decide on the other.

Hey Lisa! What's up with this NN? She hasn't started to lay yet. Has yours? She looks like she should have been laying by now.

Wendy! I have been wondering about you. Missed you! There you are. :) :)
 
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How and why? How in the world does this poor chicken stay on it's feet..upright...and why do they breed them like this? Poor little chicken. :( Makes my back hurt just looking at it. :/
 
Hello,I do not mean to butt in, but I just wanted to mention, I have raised almost my entire flock from shipped eggs. I can not tell you how many hatches have ended up with 0-maybe 2 chicks. It is heartbreaking and has cost me a ton of money. I followed everyone's advise on temperatures and humidities and monitored them to the T, but same results all the time. So I guess I started to get desperate to figure out what is going so wrong, I would start to help some that would pip in anticipation they would not die. In all this experience of my own hatches and observations, I think I have figured out what goes so wrong. Well first of all during lock down I would close the vents or close them more so during lockdown to prevent more humidity loss, but I realized I think this was suffocating the chicks, so I immediately stopped this and utilized other ways to increase humidity. Of course I did have a little better hatch rate in following incubations, but still not great. So next I played around with humidity and how that affected my hatches. And I have to say I have incubated eggs anywhere from 30-60% humidity during day 1-18, then raised humidity up to anywhere from 50-80% during lockdown. From what I can tell I think the sudden increase of humidity is what kills them. I notice if I stay consistant during incubation at about 45-50% humidity maybe 55%, then only raise it up to 60% I have a great hatch. Even on shipped eggs. If I incubate say around 40% then raise humidity to 65% during lockdown it seems like it isn't as good. I really feel like a sudden huge increase of humidity during lock down is not so good for the chicks. I really feel like it makes them die. Anyway, this is just my opinion that I have formed from my own experience, so please do not take me for granted but I really have spent countless nights staring in my incubator just waiting, waiting, waiting, and still nothing. And now I know they are going to come out, I no longer wait, and wait because they actually come out!!


SilkieSmooth, you definitely are not alone in your dislike for shipped eggs! They are a roll of the dice at best. I have had TERRIBLE luck with them.

Iluv-trying to rack my brain of any ideas to help you....regarding dry hatching silkie eggs---didn't you say your last air cells were still half the egg on one chick? That usually means they are drying out too fast? I can never get bantam eggs to hatch without decent humidity. Just my two cents. Thick shelled eggs like Marans have to be hatched with hardly any humidity, they are the opposite they are hard to get to dry out. Another idea I had--just like the other gal was saying---is there any chance you are leaving the red plugs in on top of the incubator? They need to be out to allow oxygen in...not enough oxygen can be one cause of birth defects....you can also use a damp sponge to keep your humidity where you want it rather than water in the channels if you need. Or paper towels in the channels like on this gals cheat sheet. Here is a great cheat sheet--but keep in mind this is for LF eggs and banty eggs usually need a little more humidity. ( See last paragraph in Q&A) Were your friends dry hatched eggs bantam??

This gal is a serial hatcher, and the advice on here is great! I think most of us have used this one to get started.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/chookschicks-incubation-cheat-sheet
Thanks you guys, it was the one egg that almost made it that had a good size air cell, but it was also a pretty small egg. But im getting confused lately because I have been told all week by others that they hatch their silkies with huge air cells, like half the egg all the time just fine and consider it normal.. So now I am wondering if its a good thing or not. I always thought it meant they were loosing too much moisture and might shrink wrap and thats why I helped the last one because I figured it would die anyway and wanted to give it a chance and it looked so squished. Another friend who's been having no luck with shipped eggs, finally hatched her best hatch yesterday and like I said she hatched hers completely dry, no water at all and then put the humidity 70-80 at lockdown. All 8 of hers pipped and hatched right out at the same time except one who never turned and died. She really feels like the completely dry hatch is the way to go for her. The one that died, i thought had a more normal looking air cell but like I said it still appeared to have "room" right above its body, so I thought it was slow but maybe it was too much moisure that didnt dry out in time. Its so hard to know. I leave one plug out during incubation and then opened both at lockdown, but I think where I went wrong was too much open at lockdown because I cut out two smaller holes to act as the second hole I was suppose to open. I couldnt use the regular second hole because the fan is under it and blows the humidity out so I blocked that one and made my own. But I did two smaller ones, so it was making it 3 holes total at lockdown which I thought would mean more oxygen and be a good thing. I used a container full of water and a sponge, and another sponge on the other end but had to keep adding water to keep it wet so I think it was leaving through the holes too much. It still read that it was in the 70's but it very little to no condensation at the top of the bator so I really feel like it probably wasent getting enough even though it read that it was. Everyone elses pictures shows foggy windows at the top and mine never was. So I think I had too much air flow at lockdown. So this time I will block up the extra hole, so that its just the two that it was suppose to be. I found a way to make the temp more constant this time (wrapping a blanket just along the sides of the bator and pressing up againt a wall. I havent seen it fluctuate once yet. I havnt had a problem getting the babies to grow, its getting them to hatch that im struggling with. So I am just trying to figure out where im going wrong so I can get it right this time.
 
does anyone local raise Barbanters? I have been trying to hatch shipped eggs and I have had the worst luck possible. my first try 21 eggs I got one very sick little chick that died my second try 14 eggs nothing. I have hatched a lot of other breeds (shipped eggs) and never had this bad luck. so Im hoping some one locale has them. i also just hatched some Breese 2 weeks ago does anyone else raise Breese around here?
 
I never never use the plugs. They are in a drawer. If the moisture gets too high, and you see condensation on the window, what do you think the little ones are breathing in once they pip internally and start breathing. I know someone that has openly admitted that he opens his bator during lock down, when ever he wants..has great hatches. Again, we can't get mama hen's perfect temps, or humidity, but she is not always staying put on those eggs,and she is still turning them during .. ahem..lock down. I only go 60 to 62% on the humidity during lock down. No higher. I also candle towards the end to see where they are on the end of day 19 or 20. If I see one pipped internally and nothing has happened on the outside shell by the end of that day..then I'm helping. Have done this for years. I started getting really good hatches. That's me. I'm not afraid to do this now. Have done for years. I did give it a try last yr..to wait with the silkies. Didn't work. Started helping again. Babies! They grow up fine and dandy. Again, works for me, and I'm sure plenty with others out there.

Buff Orpingtons..I do believe that Brad got one of these? A couple
of years back?






This is Dixie..





I love the still air bators too..and I hand turn. I don't like the turners! I only use those if I have to.
 
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I never never use the plugs. They are in a drawer. If the moisture gets too high, and you see condensation on the window, what do you think the little ones are breathing in once they pip internally and start breathing. I know someone that has openly admitted that he opens his bator during lock down, when ever he wants..has great hatches. Again, we can't get mama hen's perfect temps, or humidity, but she is not always staying put on those eggs,and she is still turning them during .. ahem..lock down. I only go 60 to 62% on the humidity during lock down. No higher. I also candle towards the end to see where they are on the end of day 19 or 20. If I see one pipped internally and nothing has happened on the outside shell by the end of that day..then I'm helping. Have done this for years. I started getting really good hatches. That's me. I'm not afraid to do this now. Have done for years. I did give it a try last yr..to wait with the silkies. Didn't work. Started helping again. Babies! They grow up fine and dandy. Again, works for me, and I'm sure plenty with others out there. Buff Orpingtons..I do believe that Brad got one of these? A couple of years back? This is Dixie.. I love the still air bators too..and I hand turn. I don't like the turners! I only use those if I have to. [/quote Cute babies! I wish I knew what keeps going wrong then :s I am going to watch this last batch very closely and help as you do if needed. I am determined to get some to hatch :) why don't you like to use the turner?? I have used it every time and love it. I would get way to side tracked throughout the day with kids to remember to turn if by hand so I let it do it for me.
 
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How and why? How in the world does this poor chicken stay on it's feet..upright...and why do they breed them like this? Poor little chicken. :( Makes my back hurt just looking at it. :/

That is a malaysian Serama In America its called an extreme Serama I have seen a few of them. They have no problem walking breeding or flying. Its just a different look and does make some people uncomfortable. Personally I kind of like the look
 
Iluv, it will happen, just keep at it! It does take a few tries to get the knack of it. You can do this!

I prefer still air also, with the exception of hatching Marans eggs, then I use the forced air to dry them out a little better.
My last silkie hatch was about 35-38% humidity throughout. I think I had one egg that had started to develop under a broody before I brought it in to incubate, it pipped on day 18, the rest on day 20. The air cells stayed right on track with the chart...I think I got 15/17. I did check for internal pips, I could see the little beak shadows in the eggs, and helped a few..they were all Showgirls, this seems to happen a lot. My hatch before that I tried to set silkie eggs with my Marans eggs, so they stayed dry hatch with no water, I lost all of them, Liz did the same thing too with a couple dozen of my eggs and lost most of hers too, it is the only really bad hatch I have had with my own silkies/SG eggs so I was really sure the zero water was what messed them up. Maybe it was just dumb bad luck! The Marans hatched great that time, and the Silkies, nothing---I really should not have set the eggs but geez the marans were already going in and the silkie eggs were right there piling up so I could not help myself. Haha :D I was most worried about getting the Marans to hatch because I had a buyer wanting them so I went with no water. The silkie air cells were over half the egg though, they looked dreadful, I think they just got so tight in there and ran out of room and liquid.
So there are my observation notes, not sure if that helps at all, it is different with every home environment and every incubator, and what room you put them in, all that makes as difference....but sharing notes in case that helps you figure out what to do :thumbsup
 
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