Thank you. I may have to try a collar, no one is wanting him. I do! :/ Maybe tomorrow. I just don't like the thought of putting one on him while in the run. They do so much backing up and freaking out at first. Would rather he got used to it while free ranging, but, it snowed here again. Will see what happens tomorrow. I haven't put him on ksl yet..but that usually means..the soup pot.