Uuugghhh... constant worms it seems!

[casportpony]

And if it were so effective on the ground, horse owners everywhere would buy it by the ton and sprinkle it all over their stalls, paddocks and small pastures. Horse people are really OCD when it comes to parasite control.

 

[Michael Apple]

A 50# bag can be had for just about $30 at many farm stores. You can also get it shipped to your home. My opinion is based on my experience. Not some scientific controlled environment.

I have you beat. It costs me $20 for bottle of Albendazole/Fenbendazole tabs. I used DE for about a year as a wormer in feed, and as a coop treatment. Fenbendazole did what DE could not. Permethrin or Rabon did what DE could not, and still does.

If the wormer you're using calls for withdraw you might as well be buying store bought eggs.

I usually have a month supply in the refrigerator. 2 weeks doesn't bother me. Since there's no withdrawal for Fenbendazole in turkeys, I doubt the 2 week residual for chickens.

Sorry to those who disagree, but maybe someone here will stop poisoning their chickens.

I'm sorry you are misinformed. I have active, attractive birds with red combs, even in the 10 year old hens still with me. I doubt they are poisoned.

 

[rancher hicks]

If it were such an effective wormer it would be in horse, cattle, goat, cat and dog feed, right? What I would like to see is a study done where someone takes a poop sample to the vet, that vet confirms capillary worms, then the bird is treated with DE and sometime later that bird is retested and the results are negative. Show me a study like that and then I'll change my mind about DE.

I know it doesn't work on lice, I tried, but it made zero diference. Can't comment on mites, 'cause I they didn't have any when I used it.

-Kathy

I didn't say I treat my BIRDS with DE, I do use it as a preventative measure in controlling worms and slugs. I have in fact taken a slug, sprinkled it with DE and it dried up.

I have never noticed mites or lice in my chickens and I've always used DE as I stated. I can't comment on your experience since I don't know your applications process nor keeping practices.

However I still see no sense in using wormers that require tossing eggs.

 

[rancher hicks]

And if it were so effective on the ground, horse owners everywhere would buy it by the ton and sprinkle it all over their stalls, paddocks and small pastures. Horse people are really OCD when it comes to parasite control.

Were we talking about horse? If so, my experience is with chickens.

 

[rancher hicks]

I didn't say anything about using DE in feed though I have have tossed some in on occasion just because.

I still think it's a waste to toss eggs. If you don't that's your decision.

I wasn't talking about turkeys either.

I wasn't talking about pretty chickens either. As for poisoned that's your opinion you have not changed mine.

I simply disagree and don't like to see what I see as misinformation given. What others choose to accept is up to them but they should know both sides of the coin. I'm sorry too, because I see you as being misinformed.


Peace,

I'm done here.

 

[casportpony]

Quote: I had a *clean* 10' x 20' covered coop (car port with wire sides, so lots of fresh air and sunshine) where they slept and spent the majority of the day, no litter, ten birds. DE was sprinkled all over the inside and outside where they did their dust bathing while roaming the backyard when let out. Found feather lice one day, applied tons of DE to birds, and several days later the lice were still there. So DE didn't work as a preventative, and it sure didn't treat them either.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Quote: Both... you said "Spread around it will kill/dry up worms and worm casings in chicken poop." If it were true for chicken poop, same would be true for horse poop and the ground horses are kept on.

-Kathy

 

[Michael Apple]

I didn't say I treat my BIRDS with DE, I do use it as a preventative measure in controlling worms and slugs. I have in fact taken a slug, sprinkled it with DE and it dried up.

So will salt, but it still won't repel and destroy mites, lice, or darkling beetles.

I have never noticed mites or lice in my chickens and I've always used DE as I stated. I can't comment on your experience since I don't know your applications process nor keeping practices.

That means you don't have mites or lice. It has nothing to do with the DE. Catch a bunch of beetles, fleas, or your bug of choice, and toss them in a plate of DE. See how many walk or jump out and go on their merry way. If slugs are so abundant that DE use controls them in your environment, knock yourself out. That's one vector you can control with regular DE treatments. This thread pertains to intestinal worms, which DE has no effect on.


However I still see no sense in using wormers that require tossing eggs.

You said we were "poisoning" our birds too. If you want a good poison that controls intestinal worms, you could always use Hygromycin. No egg withdrawal for that. By all means, continue to use DE and attribute it to why your birds remain worm-free. Many of us know better.

 

[casportpony]

Thanks for the idea! Maybe I'll buy a bag of it and do that. Pretty sure I can find a hen at the feed store that covered in mites and lice, and I'd be willing to bet money the could live in it, lol.

-Kathy

 

[akhadley]

Alright, I'm mentally done with this... my EE just had a normal looking poo for the first time in forever and I was so excited but... there it freaking was... ANOTHER **** worm. Pretty sure it was a tapeworm. WHAT do I do now... I have wormed them SO many times in the past several months and I feel like it just ISN'T working and I'm so frustrated I want to cry now. She's a very light weight bird and I guess these worms are why... I'm so upset right now... I don't want to deworm them anymore... or at least for several months, but I feel like if I don't then I'm risking their lives. Can they live with worms? Probably not cuz they just take all the nutrients away right? So what do I do! I've tried this so many times! Wazine then Valbazen, then just Valbazen TWICE, then a horse wormer... I've had to throw out SO MANY EGGS which is so upsetting... what do I do now? :'( I feel like I'm totally at a loss right now... I just have no idea what to do anymore. I feel like I'm just hurting them now by giving them MORE medication and then I have to throw out 24 days worth of eggs after all is said and done. PLEASE help me... this is so upsetting. They're only 9 months old and I've wormed them at least four times since September... and it's not working. I live on Guam where the soil is always warm and moist, so then worms are inevitable right? So what do I do? We've only been keeping their eggs now for a week since the last bout of dewormer... I'm going to scream if I have to throw out the eggs again... w... t... f... please help me.


Sad, upset, frustrated only 9 months in new chicken owner...