vaccinations

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by BRYAN662, May 17, 2009.

  1. BRYAN662

    BRYAN662 Out Of The Brooder

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    can you vaccinate for fowl pox, marek's, crd and coryza at one time?
     
  2. spook

    spook Chillin' With My Peeps

    I don't know that, but you are aware that all those things you innoculate for will make your birds contagious to all others.
    FYI vaccines are great, but you are doing the other people that come on and off your property a disservice without warning them. Some areas do have larger problems with these conditions, but if your going to show any, please do not innoculate or do so giving that information as you could potentionally kill the birds that come in contact.
    Just a heads up.
     
  3. pips&peeps

    pips&peeps There is no "I" in Ameraucana

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    Most vaccinations do not make them contagious to others. Vaccines that do spread from bird to bird in the most part have been taken off the market.

    And, No, you must wait between vaccinations. There should be information on the label of each vaccine.
     
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  4. ChickyLaura

    ChickyLaura The Crazy Chicken Lady

    Mar 31, 2009
    Eastern/Central PA
    I sure hope that giving vaccines doesn't make them contagious! What about all the MMR vaccinations kids get, and all the Flu shots I've given!
     
  5. M@M@2four

    [email protected]@2four Chillin' With My Peeps

    Mar 12, 2008
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    Quote:Not sure where you heard that, but that is not true--it does not make them contagious to others! They aren't infected with the virus--they are just inocculated so they don't get it!
     
  6. finnleyjo

    finnleyjo Out Of The Brooder

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    Whether or not a virus is shed after vaccination depends on what form the vaccine is. If it is a live attenuated vaccine then it is shed. I don't know about poultry vaccines, but on the human side vaccines like chicken pox and MMR (among others) are live and anyone who receives them will shed them for a period of time.

    The quote is from here (Bolding mine)

    Live attenuated vaccines
    Live attenuated vaccines usually are created from the naturally occurring germ itself. The germs used in these vaccines still can infect people, but they rarely cause serious disease. Viruses are weakened (or attenuated) by growing them over and over again in a laboratory under nourishing conditions called cell culture. The process of growing a virus repeatedly-also known as passing--serves to lessen the disease-causing ability of the virus. Vaccines are made from viruses whose disease-causing ability has deteriorated from multiple passages.

    Examples of live attenuated vaccines include:

    * Measles vaccine (as found in the MMR vaccine)
    * Mumps vaccine (MMR vaccine)

    * Rubella (German measles) vaccine ( MMR vaccine)

    * Oral polio vaccine (OPV)

    * Varicella (chickenpox) vaccine​
     
  7. spook

    spook Chillin' With My Peeps

    finnleyjo Thank you very much.
    When a "Live" virus/disease is given, they can shed to other birds. For example ILT in the form they give to Commercial birds, it is contagious, or atleast that is what a past necropsy report gave. Also some of the Mycoplasma's will be contagious and also some of the Herpes virus in birds will pass from one bird to another.

    I do not pick my info out of the air, folks may feel this way, but I do not make this crap up.

    Find out your needs from the State Vet, your Vet or look it up online. Also asking folks at your area Poultry club as they will know more too.

    Good luck.
     
  8. spook

    spook Chillin' With My Peeps

    Here is a site where it mentions what I'm saying!

    http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/PS030

    Marek's disease
    It has been demonstrated that the vaccine only prevents the appearance of Marek's disease tumors and paralysis. It does not prevent the birds from becoming infected with and shedding the Marek's virus.

    Fowl Pox
    Do not vaccinate unless you have a problem on your farm or in your area. The virus is spread from bird to bird through the bites of blood-sucking insects (such as mosquitos) or through wounds and scratches by the birds when fighting. If there is a heavy mosquito infestation in an area, small flock owners may consider vaccinating with fowl pox vaccine.

    Laryngotracheitis
    State approval is required prior to vaccination. Do not vaccinate unless you have a problem on your farm or in your area.

    That is because it spreads from bird to bird, dust, feed bags and clothing.

    However, in the following days, vaccinated birds will horizontally shed the vaccine to pen mates. The horizontal transmission will be variable and there will be additional changes in the maternal antibody levels, further complicating the flock's reaction. The same principals apply to spray vaccination​
     
  9. pips&peeps

    pips&peeps There is no "I" in Ameraucana

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    Marek's disease
    It has been demonstrated that the vaccine only prevents the appearance of Marek's disease tumors and paralysis. It does not prevent the birds from becoming infected with and shedding the Marek's virus.

    Fowl Pox
    Do not vaccinate unless you have a problem on your farm or in your area. The virus is spread from bird to bird through the bites of blood-sucking insects (such as mosquitos) or through wounds and scratches by the birds when fighting. If there is a heavy mosquito infestation in an area, small flock owners may consider vaccinating with fowl pox vaccine.

    This is saying the actual virus is shed bird to bird, not that the vaccine spreads it.

    As far as ILT goes, the new vaccine does not spread bird to bird and the old one is no longer recommended.

    LT-IVAX[​IMG]
    Pharmaceutical Name
    Fowl Laryngotracheitis Vaccine, Modified Live Virus


    Features and Benefits
    Unique tissue culture origin vaccine

    Does not spread bird-to-bird

    I cannot comment on your last quote as I have no idea as to what it refers to. I seems to me that you have only provided information to promote your point of view.​
     
  10. spook

    spook Chillin' With My Peeps

    Yep, well that is the way it goes, and why I gave the link for people to read for themselves, if we knew it all, we wouldn't need to have the BYC forum.
    Good luck and I'm in the back woods here in Maine, a bit backwards, but still opinionated and happy at the same time!
     

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