Vegetarian Chickens?

[adoptedbyachicken]

Folks I have cleaned this up of both the off topic talk and the flaming.

This is about chicken feed, not your personal choice in your own diet, and never at BYC will the flaming of other's personal choices be permitted. I'm right, your wrong is not 'discussion'.

Continue on topic. Thanks for your attention.

 

[Davaroo]

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Wow, I must have been participating in a different version of this thread - I never saw such as you describe.

Ah well, vegetarian chickens, huh? Seems pointless to me, all things considered. I wonder what the chickens think about it?

 

[Enchanted Sunrise Farms]

Hum, i didn't see a single flame. Just some folks discussing the topic with lots of information and a bit of personal input. But i guess we have been chastised here for having an intelligent ongoing conversation.

i will drop off this thread now.

 

[Royd]

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Someone should do some research about the correlation between vegetarianism and thin skin.
It's sad, that a little bit of light humor, is not tolerated, anymore.

 

[justmeandtheflock]

I was checking out egg prices in the grocery store yesterday and cage free vegitarian eggs were almost $5 a dozen. $4.69 for regular cage free. I am guessing people are paying these crazy prices or they wouldn't be there. I'm wondering how they keep them from eating bugs? Or can they call them vegetarian simply because their feed contains no animal products. Hmmm.

 

[Wifezilla]

I'm wondering how they keep them from eating bugs?

You keep them in a small indoor cage away from all that evil grass, fresh air and sunshine. Vegetarians chickens = malnourished battery hens​

 

[DiVon80]

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Why not just eat species appropriate diets....WHY change! Sure I add goods things to my chickens diet(flax,wild bird seed, Sunflower hearts, safflower, wheat and lots of other good things). They have game bird feed as a basis. Game bird still adds animal protein, not just soy. They free range every day. The mad cow disease comes from feeding a cow( who has a few stomaches made to process grasses)meat. Think of the state the meat will be in by the time it gets threw the cow. I had a blu heeler from PA. actually die from mad cow. She like turned to rubber. It was a sad sight. Generally dogs do not live long enough to show the symptons. She was 12. Alot of stock yards have heelers, the problem occures when brain matter or spinal cord fluid gets on the meat...I even know a lot of old timers who eat/ate brains. NOT nowadays. Rumminates can not eat meat!!!This is what happens when people try to change a species diet. What do you think happens to all the lil roosters at hatcheries? They get ground up in to meal. Added to animal diets as meat. How can you produce a cage free vegi egg? If the birds are cage free and roaming they are gonna eat insects??

 

[DiVon80]

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Ditto!

 

[twentynine]

Vegetarian chicken--- I think that would be impossible. Feed'em a veggie feed like Purina but they are going to eat anything or everything that goes through the cage.

Making fun of vegitarians and vegans.
I think allot of people connect veggies and vegans to animal rights activist. You can be vegan and veggie without the other. Personnal choice.

I have been confronted by an animal rights activist concerning animals, raising chickens and such. It seems for the most part they are not satisfied with their own point of view. They insist that every one else share their view.

 

[Chris09]

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Ditto!

Here is something I found on the web about feeding soybean to chickens/ livestock.. Oh as I was looking around the effects of feeding soy to chickens I saw a site that said this and I quote "Research is now showing that when you feed your baby soy formula, you're giving him or her the equivalent of five birth control pills a day" ... Well here is the info I found on feeding soy to livestock...

Soybean is a major ingredient in livestock feeds, with chicken feed containing the highest proportions. Almost half of the beans processed for livestock feed are for chicken feed. That’s because soybeans contain 38% protein, an essential nutrient for poultry.

If soy is such a prevalent and industry accepted ingredient in regular and organic chicken feed, why should we be worried? Much of it depends on your personal nutritional beliefs or needs. I’ll share with you the major concerns held by many food conscious folks, so you can make an informed decision for yourself about what to feed your chickens.

Originating in China, soybeans have been consumed by humans for thousands of years. It’s only been in the last century that the way we eat soy has changed dramatically. Fermentation is how soy was first prepared for eating. It was a side dish that complimented the rest of the meal. Raw soy is not fit for consumption and can be considered toxic. Today’s soy is processed in variety of methods (not fermented) which denatures the proteins and increases levels of carcinogens.

Soy is a prevalent ingredient in almost all processed foods. Those with a soy allergen (it’s one of the top eight food allergens for humans) know this best. It’s in fast-foods, baby food, processed meat, breads, etc. Unless you are very conscious of everything you eat, it is easy to consume an unregulated amount of soy products every day.

Perhaps you are not allergic to soy, here are some other findings that may be important to you. Soy is not a complete protein (as commonly believed), lacking some important amino acids. Soy foods can cause deficiencies in calcium and vitamin D. Soy increases levels of estrogen (possibly simulating the growth of related tumors) and decreases levels of testosterone. It has been related to pre-mature sexual development in females, and delayed development in males. Animal studies show soy foods causes infertility in animals.

Because soy is a prolific food allergen, the FDA requires it to be listed clearly as an ingredient in processed foods. At this time the FDA does not require meat, raised on soy feeds, to be disclosed. People highly allergic to soy are affected by this.

Soybean is the human choice for animal feed, thus covertly making it another avenue into our daily consumption of it. Chickens receive the highest level of exposure, and it is retained in their meat and eggs. If you are allergic to soy, or concerned about levels of consumption, soy-free organic chicken feed is produced by two organic feed mills in the USA (in VA and IL). You can order it in our online store today.

Chris