Vent: Complete and total lack of respect towards teachers on here

[SarahBeth9394]

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It's hard to even figure out how to respond to this. Each spec ed student has an individual education plan that is put together by spec ed, administration, teachers, parents, and the student. It's the teachers job to learn about the disabilities that his students have so he can understand that what he may see as bad behaviors in many disabilities aren't behavior problems but are directly due to the disability.

If the teacher/student ratio isn't proportional then the teacher has got to let everyone in the plan process know that there is a problem including the parents.

If there is a danger issue for any reason the teacher has got to make sure that it is reported. I shutter to think of a student getting hurt because somebody somewhere in the system passed the buck.

 

[WriterofWords]

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Yep, been there done that, buried two students this year; one high school one middle school. One of my 6th graders 3 years ago gave birth in December.
I'm the "teacher with the chickens" btw.

 

[chickeypoo]

i have to say there are good ones and bad ones. same with child care my sis in law is a child care provider and has given me some stories and im sure it closely related to WoW's rant as well lol.

parents not bringing dipes, or extra clothes. parents who then get mad for their child wearing someone else's clothes when accidents happen. using the system to get child care benefits but not actually working. ugh.

i know that teachers can have a hard time. id have to say some of my own were not very good. one coached girls tennis and he'd slap the girls butts. and he was also a geometry teacher and would look down girls shirts when we were testing. and this was at a Lutheran School. but my daughters teachers have gone above and beyond what they need to for teaching. my middle one had a hard time learning from me(i don't have patience.. i can't keep the bator closed for the life of me lol) anyway, she didn't want to learn ABC or counting from me. but i have to tell you.. she loves counting and writing more than anything. and im happy. my oldest has problems in math adn had to take summer school.. and now she's ahead of the game

so i commend the teachers that are doing a great job, and im wishing the teachers that need to get going.. would. i am hoping that the teachers my girls have, will be fair and help when needed.. not just be there for a pay check.

i couldn't ever do what they do. i just don't have the patience.

 

[Whispering Winds]

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THANK you Katy, this is my thoughts exactly. My 8 year old had a little girl poke him 5 times in PE and when he poked back, you know who got sent out . . .then when his teacher asked why he had to set out PE, and he told her she called him a LIAR and said the little girl was too sweet and never do that." This is one of my best friends, and both of us were crushed over it. I realize there are lousy parents out there, and send those kids to school who never had a bit of discipline at home, or bathed or whatever, but its a teacher's RESPONSIBILITY not to talk about it to anyone outside the school. How do they know who people are related too????? I know its frustrating, low pay, long hours, little thanks (my oldest sister was a teacher for over 30 years, I KNOW what you all deal with!) but if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.Where all my kids go to school, there was a K teacher that was a holy terror, and I am kidding you not. My oldest daughter said one time when she was in her 20's that she was still tramatized by some of the things that teacher did to the class. My son felt the same way, so even though we vent about it, I can vent about the electric company, the gas company, the water company, the insurance company, or even the mail . . .pick one. . . .its just that if we see someone vent on here about something, almost all of us has something to add or vent about too. I know there are wonderful teachers, my kids had them, and all it takes is ONE bad teacher to leave a lasting bad image in a child's mind . . .sorry, but I feel strongly about this. If our children called a teacher names, there would be SEVERE repercussions; should be the same for the teacher. Lots of other ways to handle things than name calling. OK, I'm done!!!

 

[SarahBeth9394]

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I'll have to go back and find all those complaints. I also have never said a word about the Internet being a term paper, using shortcuts, or calling you dumb. My comment on grammar, spelling, structure, etc. was aimed at those who are publicly flogging teachers but in the process making themselves look very ignorant. Maybe they should have paid a little closer attention in class?
I have never complained about being a teacher, I love to teach. Yes I have complained about rudeness, I don't feel that just because I'm a teacher I should have to put up with rudeness. Yes, I've complained about rotten parents, but I've never said ALL parents are rotten, so why does everyone else get to say ALL teachers are rotten?
You are entitled to your low opinion of me, hopefully one of your teachers taught you which amendment protects your right to say it.

By the way, yes I've also complained about the pay, I teach in NM and we don't get paid much and it doesn't go far when I have to pay for the supplies for the kids of the rotten parents.

Well you have called me ignorant because I have homeschooled and don't always use perfect spelling on the internet. I just pointed out that it's ironic that you are the biggest complainer of the teachers here yet you got on the homeschoolers and others who complain about teachers. You agree you complain because unfortunately being a teacher does mean that you are going to deal with the things we've both mentioned. Is it right that it's that way? No it's not. But it is the reality of teaching.

My kids school does alot of teaching about character. I think schools everywhere would benefit from it. It won't make every kid perfect but it would help alot.

 

[PotterWatch]

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You say that this topic isn't about homeschool vs. public school, yet you are the one who started out your thread by making comments about homeschoolers. If this topic were just about how you feel parents aren't respectful of their children's teachers, I would never have commented. The fact that you brought homeschool people into it like we are all rude, anti-schoolers is what made me comment.

 

[babylady4]

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THANK you Katy, this is my thoughts exactly. My 8 year old had a little girl poke him 5 times in PE and when he poked back, you know who got sent out . . .then when his teacher asked why he had to set out PE, and he told her she called him a LIAR and said the little girl was too sweet and never do that." This is one of my best friends, and both of us were crushed over it. I realize there are lousy parents out there, and send those kids to school who never had a bit of discipline at home, or bathed or whatever, but its a teacher's RESPONSIBILITY not to talk about it to anyone outside the school. How do they know who people are related too????? I know its frustrating, low pay, long hours, little thanks (my oldest sister was a teacher for over 30 years, I KNOW what you all deal with!) but if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.Where all my kids go to school, there was a K teacher that was a holy terror, and I am kidding you not. My oldest daughter said one time when she was in her 20's that she was still tramatized by some of the things that teacher did to the class. My son felt the same way, so even though we vent about it, I can vent about the electric company, the gas company, the water company, the insurance company, or even the mail . . .pick one. . . .its just that if we see someone vent on here about something, almost all of us has something to add or vent about too. I know there are wonderful teachers, my kids had them, and all it takes is ONE bad teacher to leave a lasting bad image in a child's mind . . .sorry, but I feel strongly about this. If our children called a teacher names, there would be SEVERE repercussions; should be the same for the teacher. Lots of other ways to handle things than name calling. OK, I'm done!!!

Here here!!

 

[WriterofWords]

I don't allow name-calling in my classroom or on the playground, and I don't approve of teachers doing it either. For example at the end of the year starts an annoying procedure that we go through every year; putting together classes for the next year and the next grade up. Since we are 6th we don't do that, but we get to hear all about the kids for next year from the 5th grade teachers. Since I specialize in behavioral disorders I'm always hearing "Oh you'll get Juan because he's awful" or "Look out your getting Julie, she's trouble!". The teachers who have been here longer know better than to say these things for me because I tell them the students start the year with a clean slate, I also tell the kids this, because it's their opportunity to change their behaviors.

One funnier thing that happened to me a couple of years ago happened in line at our grocery store. I heard two parents in front of me talking about a child who was just having fits in class, very unhappy, felt left out, was getting bad grades, the teacher just hated her and made her life a living hell. I was about to ask what school they were talking about but to my surprise one of them said the name and it was my own school. So I decided to listen a little closer before I said anything, if I did at all. I wanted to hear the students name first. The one mom started describing a book report the student had to do, right about then I discovered they were talking about a student in MY class! The mom went on about how the mean, horrible teacher (me) gave them this assignment on Friday and expected the poor darlings to do it over the weekend. Didn't she have any respect for family time?? Then I heard her refer to her daughter,, it was one of my students who was famous for "losing" all her work, never would participate in group work, and I was horribly mean because I sent her to the office for calling another student a whore. I tapped mom on the shoulder and introduced myself it went something like this: "Hi, my name is Ms. Livingston, I'm your daughter's teacher? I'm sorry we haven't met before, you haven't made either parent/teacher conference this year and I must have the wrong phone number because you don't return my calls. Oh, I did try and stop by twice, but no one answered the door, even though they were peeking out the window" Then I went on to tell her in front of her friend everything she hadn't wanted to hear on the phone or in person. I also told her that the book report her daughter had to do over the weekend had been due the last Wednesday, and it was written down on the monthly assignment sheet her daughter took home. It went on from there, but generally I won't confront a parent, but she was making me out to be just awful when she avoids conferences, phone calls, home visits and won't oversee her daughters education.

 

[Quail_Antwerp]

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With all due respect, I'm sure you are a wonderful teacher, and it is obvious in your postings about it that you do take your job seriously, but this paragraph is not really fair.

Not all of us homeschooling parents are drunks, lazy, or uninterested in our children. Nor are we all uneducated. I am not sure about where you live, but where I live, parents must prove they have graduated highschool to homeschool until 8th grade, and college education to homeschool their highschool age children. I have both.

I chose to homeschool because my children were being bullied at school, being forced to throw their lunch out before they were finished eating so they wouldn't miss recess, and being kept at school when they were so sick they could barely stand.

No, parents shouldn't attack teachers, but nor should teachers attack parents. And neither group should be lumped all together as being the same ie Not all teachers are bad, and not all homeschooling parents are uninvolved, uneducated drunks.

Some of us have a real interest in knowing what our children are learning, and those of us who are want to be a part of that learning process, not the one who gets to hear at the end of the day, "Mom, I learned to read today!"

You, as a teacher, get to experience the excitement and the awe a child feels when they finally "get it" or they learn something new. I want to share that with my child. I was there when they learned to sit up, crawl, walk, talk, and potty trained. Why shouldn't I be the one to watch them learn to read, write, to count, and unlock all the secrets of science? Why shouldn't I, the parent, be the one to witness the wonder and awe in their eyes when they learn something new?

I, the parent, am their first teacher.

 

[PotterWatch]

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With all due respect, I'm sure you are a wonderful teacher, and it is obvious in your postings about it that you do take your job seriously, but this paragraph is not really fair.

I took that paragraph as being aimed more at parents of traditionally schooled children, not homeschoolers. Either way, I think it is unfair as there are more parents who aren't lazy bums than ones who are. When my children were in traditional school, I was a very involved parent who provided all I was asked to and more. I also do not consider myself to be uneducated as I have a college education. As unfair as it may seem sometimes for people to attack teachers, it is equally unfair to lump all parents into the uncaring, drunk, loser category.