Vent prolapse in 2 yr old hen.....Urgent

[talkinboutchickens]

Hello,
just noticed my 2 yr old brahma hen has vent prolapse, never dealt with this before but I know it's prolapse....There's a turd stuck on her prolapsed cloaca....Looks very disturbing I'm not attaching a pic because I want to post this thread ASAP...
I read that you soak her in an epsom salt bath.....But does that even help at all? What else can I do for her? I don't know how long she's had this....Assuming it happened this morning because it wasn't there yesterday.
What can I do if it doesn't go away after treatment?

Please help

Thanks so much.

 

[azygous]

This will bring you up to speed on prolapse. https://www.backyardchickens.com/ar...ng-from-vent-prolapse-oh-my-what-to-do.76124/

First of anything you do, give her a calcium tablet or Tums if that's all you have. Second, soak her in Epsom salts and a little Dawn detergent to clean her up. Epsom salts is a very good first aid treatment as it's main function is to stimulate blood circulation.

Then follow the instructions in my article I linked to.

 

[talkinboutchickens]

This will bring you up to speed on prolapse. https://www.backyardchickens.com/ar...ng-from-vent-prolapse-oh-my-what-to-do.76124/

First of anything you do, give her a calcium tablet or Tums if that's all you have. Second, soak her in Epsom salts and a little Dawn detergent to clean her up. Epsom salts is a very good first aid treatment as it's main function is to stimulate blood circulation.

Then follow the instructions in my article I linked to.

Hello @azygous, your information you gave really helped, unfortunately she did not tolerate the bath AT ALL and kept jumping out, I eventually gave up because I didn't want to cause her any more stress. So I went right in for the more invasive method which was pushing it in. Before that she was really straining to poop so I hope that she doesn't decide to do that soon....I don't want it popping out again! We found some calcium tablets that we got previously for another hen so we crushed that and a portion of a Tums tablet and sprinkled it in her food...But I'm wary of giving it to her because I don't want her trying to poop again. She did go poop a little when I was trying to push her cloaca back in....And it had a worm in it Like a parasite worm....What product is best for treating worms?

 

[azygous]

Prolapse doesn't happen for no reason. The most common reason is egg binding. Calcium in concentrated form, not ground up and diluted in food and water, is necessary to produce contractions to get the egg out. She is not trying to poop. She's trying to push an egg out, likely two eggs. You may need to read my article again so you don't miss any important details.

 

[talkinboutchickens]

Prolapse doesn't happen for no reason. The most common reason is egg binding. Calcium in concentrated form, not ground up and diluted in food and water, is necessary to produce contractions to get the egg out. She is not trying to poop. She's trying to push an egg out, likely two eggs. You may need to read my article again so you don't miss any important details.

Later yesterday she managed to lay a soft-shelled egg, the prolapse came out again, so I pushed it back in. She has been pooping perfectly fine, eating perfectly fine, but when I came home her prolapse came out again. Is it okay to follow ur directions in your article where u smother the prolapse in the ointment and just wait for the swelling to go down? Or will that make it worse? Do you think it's a bad thing that I keep having to push it back in? Is there anything I can do to make it stay in there?
I have been grinding calcium pills and putting them in her food....Is that enough? Is there anything else I can offer her? I am desperate at this point, I don't know what to do, she has to lay an egg at some point every day and every time she does her cloaca comes back out I'm trying everything I can but my efforts aren't paying off and nothing's working.

 

[azygous]

Keep giving the calcium as long as she's prolapsing. It means she's probably got another egg coming behind the first one. In cases of prolapse and egg binding, most of the time, two back to back eggs are involved. It's not the same as a double yolk egg, although those cause eggs to be larger than they should be.

Sometimes the hen's system is "off" and she releases two ovum far enough apart that they are "built" as two separate eggs. The problem is there is not usually enough calcium to build two shells and these eggs get stuck because shell-less eggs are extremely hard to pass out of the shell gland. Once the second egg is passed, the prolapse will retract on its own. That's one way to tell the crisis is over. That and the hen will start to act normally again.


Continuing the daily calcium tablet for four or five days will calibrate her system to go back to releasing a single yolk as well as building a normal egg that won't get stuck.

 

[talkinboutchickens]

Keep giving the calcium as long as she's prolapsing. It means she's probably got another egg coming behind the first one. In cases of prolapse and egg binding, most of the time, two back to back eggs are involved. It's not the same as a double yolk egg, although those cause eggs to be larger than they should be.

Sometimes the hen's system is "off" and she releases two ovum far enough apart that they are "built" as two separate eggs. The problem is there is not usually enough calcium to build two shells and these eggs get stuck because shell-less eggs are extremely hard to pass out of the shell gland. Once the second egg is passed, the prolapse will retract on its own. That's one way to tell the crisis is over. That and the hen will start to act normally again.


Continuing the daily calcium tablet for four or five days will calibrate her system to go back to releasing a single yolk as well as building a normal egg that won't get stuck.

I re-read your article, by the time I got the cortosone cream, it retracted on its own even though she didn't lay an egg. I rinsed her vent out with glucose water and then put the cream around her vent to hopefully reduce the swelling. Her entire backside keeps straining and she's kinda shivering back there, so she might be trying to pass an egg...There is some fluid coming out of her vent, on your article I saw that it is a sign that she's egg-bound. She doesn't lay big eggs, I think its just cause of the lack of calcium...We recently switched over to Kalmbach all-flock because we learned that extra calcium is bad for the roos, and we provided oyster shells on the side, but the hens never go to the oyster shell to fill their calcium needs, so we just got a bag of layer feed yesterday. Once the egg passes will the prolapse come back after that? I heard of the possibility of it re-occurring in the future but I just don't want it to happen again soon.
Thanks so much for your help!

 

[talkinboutchickens]

She's panting now and hasn't been drinking any water...Can't tell if she's just hot or trying to release an egg????

 

[ChicNmom]

It really is best if you just give the calcium directly in her beak so she gets the full dose all at once.

When putting the prolapse back in I use cortisone ointment and a lot of it so it lubes up the egg so it will pass easier. The prolapse should gradually stay in for longer amounts of time and not protrude as much.

 

[talkinboutchickens]

It really is best if you just give the calcium directly in her beak so she gets the full dose all at once.

When putting the prolapse back in I use cortisone ointment and a lot of it so it lubes up the egg so it will pass easier. The prolapse should gradually stay in for longer amounts of time and not protrude as much.

What if she chokes on the pill?? I already gave her about a pill's worth of crushed up pills onto her food. So do you think she's good on the calcium for today? The pills are quite large so do you think i should chop it in half? Is it okay for the cortisone cream to go inside of her body or will it hurt her internally?