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I think this has helped me see a lot of different perspectives on roosters, collars, and other things. When I made this thread I was just venting thoughts/beliefs that I felt strongly about.
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I respect that completely. I feel likewise, and I'm glad you started this conversation!I think this has helped me see a lot of different perspectives on roosters, collars, and other things. When I made this thread I was just venting thoughts/beliefs that I felt strongly about.
I may try BJG/Buff Brahma crosses next year, always been curious in that mix! What did these little ones come from beside BJG?View attachment 1960536
Here's my BJG offspring I just hatched on Halloween. 2 have wattles at 16 days old![]()
Literally all my fellas have been CL specials!FWIW I've had a very easy time rehoming excess roosters. I listed them up on Craigslist for free and I had more takers than roosters!
Delaware and red sex links. I have Cochin BJG crosses in the bator now and BR/BJG.I may try BJG/Buff Brahma crosses next year, always been curious in that mix! What did these little ones come from beside BJG?
Literally all my fellas have been CL specials!
This wasn't directed towards you specifically... I've been seeing a trend for about a year on here about every topic I wrote on this thread.Most hatcheries only sell bantams as straight run. The breeds I like most are in the bantam category (Cochin, d'Uccle, OEGB, seabright). Can you propose a solution?
I have no problem eating my extra roosters, but I have yet to find a butcher/slaughter house within 5 hours of me, that handles poultry.
I live in the suburbs of my town. I would love to live outside of the city limits, but it is what it is. I am fortunate that we are one of the few places without laws or ordnances about poultry in City limits. That said, I also like to keep my neighbors friendly. My only standard breed boy is an EE (out of the PULLET bin). He has a no crow collar because he is loud. No one wants to hear their neighbors yelling "SHUT UP" to your rooster at 4:30am. (It happened)
He has never acted bothered by it. It does not impede his eating, drinking, mating, tidbiting, dancing, and only lowers the volume of his crow, by, maybe, half. A few of our bantam boys sport collars also. They are the ones who either crow excessively or are particularly piercing. Not one single personality is changed in any way.
Not one boy is silenced. It's not what the collars are made for. They only lower the volume. They are not cruel.
As for rehoming, I have no problem with that, except that, where I live, I have to worry about them being used as bait birds for cock fight training. That is a huge NO! in my book.
I have no problem with them being consumed, but after all the $$ I put in to them I would rather they were in my freezer, but again, no butcher. (I can't do it, it's hard enough to cull, let alone eviscerate.)
Additionally, the few I have met on BYC that live within a few hours of me, are into other breeds than I am, so buying, selling, trading isn't really going to happen.
I don't dislike roosters, and I was one who posted about 'silencing through surgery'. Isn't that what this site is for? Asking questions, getting advice?
I learned that the surgery can be fatal. (As can be any surgery-even people surgery) After learning, that, I decided it wasn't an option for me.
So, for me, straight run is the only choice for the breeds I like, I posted a questions about caponizing in order to make an informed decision, being on good terms with neighbors is important to some of us, and that actually testing out ways to address issues sometimes gives a harmless solution?
Opinions of collars, without actually inspecting and/or trying them out, lends no credibility to an argument other than an emotional based response to hearsay, instead of a factual one.
Although I am not writing any of this in anger, I have re read it several times, trying to find a way to say what I want to say, without it sounding 'pissy'. I have not succeeded, but it's better than it was, and it's late, and I'm tired. So, it is what it is.