I've posted on my birds not laying and what I thought was going on there. I came to the conclusion that we may be dealing with worms. I've seen none, but due to the symptoms that's what I came up with. Loss of weight, lack of laying, poor feather condition, etc. It occured to me when I was able to pick up our rooster (a light Brahma) and I was shocked at how light he was. He's been acting 'off'....no more crowing (none of the roos have been), much more calm, and then started having trouble standing (falling out of the coop in the morning). I also noted diarrhea. I've treated them with Wazine (the roo a 2nd time due to a regression after he started doing better), given pumpkins to them 3 times, and giving DE/Cayenne daily in feed (for about 2+weeks now). I need to do the vinnegar in the water too and give them some homemade yogurt. I've done all I know to do to help w/worm issues. What can I feed them to help add good nutrition and add weight to them? Most of my birds are 'bigger bodied' birds and are all low on weight (which I assumed was due to worms) The back story to this is when we got the Nubian goats. It was when they came in things started to go south w/the birds. The goats came to me apparently infested w/strongyles (worms). I've not found anything on these worms being an issue for ckns. The goats have been treated but I saw yesterday as they were pooping, the ckns were right behind them 'investigating' what was left behind (YUCK). If there is a possibility of the ckns getting these worms the goats have I don't think the Wazine will help. Before I added it to the water I called the vet to see if it was bad for the goats (they share the same waterers). She said it was fine and as a medication had no affect on them at all. So would that mean that med would also have no affect on that type of worm? We wound up finding a dead bird a day ago and the roo seems to be doing better and then will start acting 'off' again and having trouble w/his legs. It's more a weakness issue than an issue w/his legs I believe. We feed him extra and have brought him in to watch/tend to him some nights. He seems to have gained some weight since the 2nd worming several days ago. I wasn't even sure if a 2nd treatement was ok. I thought we may lose him so I just went for it in hopes it would help. I've seen no evidence of lice/mites (they were treated earlier in the summer for this). The only thing constant is that things went downhill when the goats came (which was aprox mid July) They were laying up to 13 eggs a day (15 hens) and I assumed from the stress of the goat invasion, laying immediately decreased by almost half and then just continued dropping in the following weeks until nothing. I'd assumed 1st molt maybe and it was probably likely. The main group of birds just turned 1 Oct 31st. I'm very concerned for our birds and am lost as to what to do or if something else is at play here. I need to get these guys better!!! Please offer any advice as to what could be going on here and how I can help them!