Vitamin deficiencies

[casportpony]

I done some reading and there's a lot of talk about vitamin A and Deficiencies. My question is what is the standard ui for both and if you think they are not getting enough what can you do to increase the amount they get

This link has some interesting info:
https://www.dsm.com/markets/anh/en_US/Compendium/poultry/vitamin_A.html

 

[farmerbrowne]

One person has the following
Cracked corn
Oats
Soy bean meal
Black oil sunflower seed
Wheat

Nowwhen I enter it into nutritional program it comes up 0ui for both and d. Basically could you not grind up vitamin pills and add them

 

[casportpony]

One person has the following
Cracked corn
Oats
Soy bean meal
Black oil sunflower seed
Wheat

Nowwhen I enter it into nutritional program it comes up 0ui for both and d. Basically could you not grind up vitamin pills and add them

Did you read the link?

 

[EggSighted4Life]

Did you read the link?

I did... I like to read that stuff for the detail. It was indeed interesting.

But can you put key points in simpler terms for those who might not be able to get all the way through it please?

Seems like what I gathered is that there is more at play then simply vitamin A in its' pure form. But these were the basic requirements, taken from that link..

"The requirement for vitamin A is listed in NRC (1994) as 1,500 IU per kg of diet (681 IU per lb) for broilers, growing geese and growing layer replacement birds. The requirement for laying and breeding chickens, assuming a feed intake of 100 g per day, is higher at 3,000 IU per kg (1,364 IU per lb) of diet. The requirement for all classes of turkeys is 5,000 IU per kg (2,273 IU per lb). The requirement for ducks is listed as 2,500 IU per kg (1.136 IU per lb) of diet for the growing phases and 4,000 IU per kg (1,181 IU per lb) of diet for breeders. The requirement for starting and growing Japanese quail is 1,650 IU per kg (750 IU per lb) of diet and 3,300 IU per kg (1,500 IU per lb) for breeders. Shrivastav and Panda (1999) reviewed the quail nutrition research in India. Under tropical and subtropical conditions, Shim and Vohra (1984) suggested a dietary vitamin A requirement of 4,000 IU per kg (1,181 IU per lb) for growing and laying quail. For most animals, vitamin A has been considered to be required at 100 to 200 IU per kg (45 to 90 IU per lb) of body weight per day (Olson, 1984)"

You have ALWAYS valuable information. Thank you!

 

[EggSighted4Life]

One person has the following
Cracked corn
Oats
Soy bean meal
Black oil sunflower seed
Wheat

Nowwhen I enter it into nutritional program it comes up 0ui for both and d. Basically could you not grind up vitamin pills and add them

Seriously lacking in more than that I bet.

Did they have a basic analysis with protein, fat, fiber, calcium... or any other important considerations? Sincere question, not snarkiness.

 

[farmerbrowne]

Seriously lacking in more than that I bet.

Did they have a basic analysis with protein, fat, fiber, calcium... or any other important considerations? Sincere question, not snarkiness.

Yea thee fibre , fat and calcium is all considered as the program adjusts

 

[EggSighted4Life]

Yea thee fibre , fat and calcium is all considered as the program adjusts

I guess I kinda meant did the original recipe you were using provide it and if you could post it? Also, maybe post a link to the program so we can play with it too?

Ingredients I kinda like also are barley and peas. I find most things slightly more nutritious if sprouted than dry. Wheat and white corn will give you whiter or lighter yolks than yellow corn. Just for informational purposes.

 

[EggSighted4Life]

Couple more links regarding feed required analysis, might be helpful to your overall goal even if not your vitamin A question...
http://www.merckvetmanual.com/poult.../nutritional-requirements-of-poultry#v4698580

But ah yes, I see a vitamin A section I will quote it here..

"Requirements for vitamins A, D, and E are expressed in IU. For chickens, 1 IU of vitamin A activity is equivalent to 0.3 mcg of pure retinol, 0.344 mcg of retinyl acetate, or 0.6 mcg of β-carotene. However, young chicks use β-carotene less efficiently."

Also from the same link...

"Non-nutrient antioxidants, such as ethoxyquin, are usually added to poultry diets to protect vitamins and unsaturated fatty acids from oxidation."