Wanted: Ayam Cemani Hatching Eggs

[mommachickie12]

there are several ppl that have them in US as im waiting on some to come. but alot of ppl are selling the svart hona birds as the ceremi and they are not the same. the Svart came from switzerland and others are just selling them as the high dollar when they are not. so if the breeder says they imported from switz beware it isnt the real thing. but like anything else by fall next year it will be cheap on them

 

[dutchbunny83]

If your were legit you would know hatching eggs can not be imported to the united states... I asked about it in another thread and was overwhelmed with links, websites & other government info showing you can't have eggs directly imported to you through someone in Indonesia. I actually looked into it.
Also all pure bred Ayam cemani have black tongues not just the "special" (which isn't even a real thing).
Even if one were illegally to obtain the imported eggs, the likelihood of a hatch at that point is slim.
This site is also one of the only ones I've ever seen that doesn't guarantee live arrival of a live bird or chick

 

[dutchbunny83]

agreed momma prices over the next few years well drop significantly, best thing to do is wait it out, not like we will want one any less by then.
Get a black silkie to hold you over on the meantime

 

[TaylorHobbyFarms]

Just curious, if hatching eggs can not be imported into the United States, then how does Greenfire Farms get their breeds? I thought they just paid more for all the proper testing and paperwork.

 

[dutchbunny83]

They probably import live birds not eggs
Which takes several thousand dollars to do, plus an extensive process involving someone from the USDA transporting them and a quarantine process.
And they probably did it years ago, because look at the USDA posting at the bottom.
Once they go through all that, they start their own breeding line.
Though this is only a guess since I don't work there, nor am I a breeder.
I just want one pullet as a pet.
Here's a government link that was shared with me on another thread through a fellow BYC'er

http://www.aphis.usda.gov/import_export/animals/poultry_eggs.shtml

Procedures for Importing Poultry Hatching Eggs into the United States
ADVISORY: Until further notice, live avian commodities (including eggs for hatching) from the following countries or regions have been prohibited entry to the United States due to the presence of highly pathogenic avian influenza: Afghanistan, Albania, Azerbaijan, Bangladesh, Benin, Bhutan, Burkina Faso, Cameroon, Cambodia, Djibouti, Egypt, Ghana, Hong Kong, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Ivory Coast (Côte d'Ivoire), Japan, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Laos, Macau, Malaysia, Myanmar, Nepal, Niger, Nigeria, Pakistan, Palestinian Autonomous Territories, People's Republic of China, Romania, Russia, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, South Korea, South Sudan, Sudan, Taipei Chinese/Taiwan, Thailand, Togo, Turkey, Ukraine, and Vietnam.

 

[mommachickie12]

there have been ppl importing way before they stopped them from doing so. I know of ppl that imported back in 2004 that have always had them, they been here before the ban its just that ppl are just now paying attention and getting into the hype of the black chicken.. I raise imported birds and have over 225 breeders and around 350 chicks and run my 3 gqf's 24/7 to keep up with the demand on my breeds, hatching out every week and I ship all over so I know all about importing birds. I also have friends who import. there are the cerami in england and SINCE its in england they can be imported as there is no ban of THE BIRDS just a ban for those areas that have birds.. the birds isnt the ban..So I know Im legal in what I say.. Just wait til next year and they will be all elcheapo.. ita almost next year anyhow..lol..

 

[OldOrchard]

They probably import live birds not eggs
Which takes several thousand dollars to do, plus an extensive process involving someone from the USDA transporting them and a quarantine process.
And they probably did it years ago, because look at the USDA posting at the bottom.
Once they go through all that, they start their own breeding line.
Though this is only a guess since I don't work there, nor am I a breeder.
I just want one pullet as a pet.
Here's a government link that was shared with me on another thread through a fellow BYC'er

http://www.aphis.usda.gov/import_export/animals/poultry_eggs.shtml

Procedures for Importing Poultry Hatching Eggs into the United States
ADVISORY: Until further notice, live avian commodities (including eggs for hatching) from the following countries or regions have been prohibited entry to the United States due to the presence of highly pathogenic avian influenza: Afghanistan, Albania, Azerbaijan, Bangladesh, Benin, Bhutan, Burkina Faso, Cameroon, Cambodia, Djibouti, Egypt, Ghana, Hong Kong, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Ivory Coast (Côte d'Ivoire), Japan, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Laos, Macau, Malaysia, Myanmar, Nepal, Niger, Nigeria, Pakistan, Palestinian Autonomous Territories, People's Republic of China, Romania, Russia, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, South Korea, South Sudan, Sudan, Taipei Chinese/Taiwan, Thailand, Togo, Turkey, Ukraine, and Vietnam.

All you have to do is import from indonesia via canada , mexico or puerto rico,Jamaica ,get your vat clearence and presto there in the usa and its soooo much cheaper.What you really think greenfire dose import to the usa.If you called the usda and asked about birds coming from england you will find out it has never even been done only the islands.Hence a purchaser ship them to puerto rico to the port of miami and then to Tallahassee in greenfires pens.Thats the only way to get birds from a banned country.None of the imported birds have been shipped via mainland.

 

[Cemani Farm]

We have agent in singapore and austarlia. So we can ship from singapore and australia.

Permit from local country still required.

Best Regards,....

 

[Hatchapalooza]

That's great that these foreign breeding companies offer these eggs....However; it is highly illegal to import from these geographical regions into the USA!!! USDA has import protocols in place for a reason...to protect poultry breeders in the USA from exposing our flocks to diseases.

That being said- the World Heritage Animal Genomics Repository Institute ( WHAGR) www.whagrinstitute.org is working with conservation breeders in the EU and will be bringing this stock in legally.

I think they are doing great work to help us all have access to better and more diverse genetics in our US poultry flocks.

I hear they will be launching a site in 2014 to some of these birds available to US conservation breeders. Could be worth a look....

The site is supposed to be: heritagehatchery.com

I understand they are a UN FAO collaborative... super legit.

I'll be looking into their birds myself....

 

[countrylover]

Hi Mei,
I was very interested to read your thread. I am in the UK and am hatching out my first Ayam Cemani chicks at the moment. Two chicks are all black but the other two are not (they are more yellow). I was assured they were bred from Ayam Cemani birds but is this right?

I am hoping you may be able to shed some light on this.
Zoe
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