WARNING GRAPHIC! Pigeon First Aid!

[PaulScott]

I love Pigeon's i used to have some Racers but the cost of gas , going to the races , etc etc i sold my flock bands clocks , etc
I miss having them around , someday maybe ill find some tumblers and fill up my empty Kit boxes

 

[laughingdog]

yeah, i love my flying tumblers and rollers, but i have my parlor tumblers for the more close up fun of watching that i need with my vision now, so unless someone else wants babies bred to roll or tumble in air, im mostly just going to use them for fosters and just fly, and breed my flights to fly and watch them frustrate the hawks, and someday get at least a pair of colored homers to racers, to just keep as pets as would need to be cooped anyway until get in place for good to raise babies also play with the hawks... hehehe though i had some young birds from a pair that were great at evading the hawks (dad was just lucky i think, but ma was spawn of the devil and attacked and chased away from her nest on my balcony), and rolled off of attacks every time, as they got hit a lot as were mostly to all or at least half white. were best rollers i had at time i think, but mother was at least part eastern tumbler, and gone now or kept by people id given to when moved out of country setting, and just show ash red fatherand a young cock bird are all i have left of that line, but think they did well as the mother and father and their babies were left to free fly constantly, so the chicks grew up BOP savy. the one with all white with red heart on back born on valentine's day, was constantly targeted by hawks, and would look like a pillow exploded when hit or almost hit, but never a mark on, and would just fly up to highest spot in area or right to me or into nest crevis spot.

one or a pair of falcons to hawks i get as testing and culling your weaker birds maybe, but when you get four to six hawks to turkey vultures after your birds at a time, its getting ridiculus! also why do you never hear people complain about that apparently that pelicans and even seagulls kill and even eat a lot more pigeons than BOPs do (look it up if you dont believe me, as i didnt believe it either).

 

[rollkeeg877]

i had a coopers hawk try to get my roller pigeon but the crazy thing was when the hawk was gonna grab him the first time he did a back flip and the hawk missed him then when the hawk actually grabbed him he was trying to do flips on the ground then my dad ran across the field like a bat out of hell and the hawk took off and the pigeon when it got back to the pen there were no wounds

 

[laughingdog]

i had a coopers hawk try to get my roller pigeon but the crazy thing was when the hawk was gonna grab him the first time he did a back flip and the hawk missed him then when the hawk actually grabbed him he was trying to do flips on the ground then my dad ran across the field like a bat out of hell and the hawk took off and the pigeon when it got back to the pen there were no wounds

see, that was what i was wondering if it was just a flook that one or two males were doing, as the one male's babies would roll out of hawk attacks too.. i know a lot of rollers seem to not roll out when hawks attack or at least i never heard of from old pro roller men on groups, threads, sites, ect., aside from middle eastern fliers nowadays with tumblers, but one cause of rolling (aside from epilepsy promoted by most by minimal nutrition and feed amounts), i heard was a natural defense some had against predators, that ive heard dog dog trainers even mention that when they release bred, bought, or caught: homers and ferals.

 

[rollkeeg877]

i had really good rollers at the time all i have are homers now

 

[laughingdog]

i had really good rollers at the time all i have are homers now

do you just keep homers now because of the BOPs, or are they just more interesting to you to watch fly better and more ect in general than the rollers were worth trying to watch and be wary for and coddle?
I have a peragrine that just seems to wait for this one roller male to be tossed up to attack again and again, and that roller will then hide from us both for days after till he is hungry enough to come home to me and his mate, but now since last time this male has gotten super friendly and just stays as close as can following and coming to me when i go anywere around outside cages and he is out or just goes from me back and fourth to his cage, and seems to want attention as well as constant food whenever i offer. thinking of and want to try white homers still, in spring, as hated giving all my normals, then even my colored pair up, when moved as they were so strong hardy and alert all the time, and second best fliers to my flights. i have mourning doves that nest in the pine row in my complex's front area, and they never seem to get harrassed by BOPs (just cats till my "loft cat" tears into them and chases the strays away from her territory, as my maine coon mix is fine with birds, but hates other cats outside in her hunting territory and loves to eat rodents even though i feed her way to much and she is getting rather pudgy).