SO how old would you say these two are?
He has a bunch of different types, He has Opal,Purples,Java's,Bronze,whites,Spaldings,IB,BSIB,Seiple BS,Cameo,Peach, then he has these types in Reg Barred Wing and BS and some them are in Pied and Silver Pied.
He also has all types of Pheasants, Some Chickens,Guineas, Turkeys, Rheas,Emus, Black Swans and I am sure there was more.
Based on the very little I know, I would say that the blacker one is a 2012 or 2011 model and the other one is at least three.