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Hehehe MOT!!! I love it! Thanks for adopting the name! Makes me smile!
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ChickieLady. I also would very much appreciate a report on how your journey goes with that well.
The good and the bad.
What to watch out for.
Etc.
Thanks!
BTW. That pullet with the bad feet I'm sure someone would buy it just for egg laying.
Animals like humans have an amazing way of adapting to their situation.
The good and the bad.
What to watch out for.
Etc.
Thanks!
BTW. That pullet with the bad feet I'm sure someone would buy it just for egg laying.
Animals like humans have an amazing way of adapting to their situation.
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Well Chloe "my DD" gave me a small panic attack... Changed her 30 minutes ago and she had a small bump on her leg. Well I was changing her into her PJ's and she is covered from her belly to her ankles in splotchy, raised rashes... So stripped her down and gave her a quik bath, called my mom and asked her to come double check...
(Can you tell I'm a first timer?) Put some topical allergy cream on the rashes, and now I'm sitting here making sure it doesnt get worse... I can't for the life of me figure out what happened... Bug bite that she's overly sensitive too??? Allergic to the laundry soap, new carseat, new clothes??? I just don't know what it could be or what else to do...
Ugg...
Ugg...
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I believe this to be true in part. Think of all the new people who post in the health and illness section. Many of them wonder why fluffy and poofertail sniffle or have bubbly eyes, or why the ten chickens they bought at auction are dropping dead, etc.
They're new. They don't know. They got that sick bird/disease from somewhere, and I guarantee the hatchery didn't drop the birds off at the auction, it was likely Joe Schmoe from down the road who got sick of his chickens or hatched too many.
Now, I differentiate educated small HOBBYISTS from the casual keeper of some random layers or a barnyard flock. There is a difference between those who simply have some birds running around their lot that they throw scratch to a few times a week and those who build runs, carefully choose breeds, read up about diseases, are aware that there ARE vaccines for poultry, etc.
Different even from them is the dedicated poultry fancier. It's the educated small hobbyist who got the fire in their belly for poultry, who has the passion for a particular breed or breeds and enjoys showing, who wants to preserve the breed in the form it is supposed to be according to the standard of protection. These people do take some of their birds off of their premises to areas where large numbers of other birds are, but many are very aware of potential risks and guard against them. Most quarantine, many vaccinate for more than one disease, they pay attention to birds cooped around theirs at the shows. They often educate others.
Now I realize each description is a stereotype, and there are always people who are a mix of one or more, or who don't fit the mold... but I digress.
My point is that some of the small joe schmoe chicken keepers, the ones with little invested in their chickens, the casual swappers,... and even the well intentioned but unexperienced backyard flock owner- they do carry and spread disease. The large poultry producers often practice 'all in, all out', many vaccinate. If they get an illness, it's not the loss of a small flock of ten, but the loss of thousands of birds and loss of income.
I'm not saying mass agriculture keeps birds in pristine conditions with plenty of room where they experience little stress, but I am saying that I don't think they are responsible for a lot of the small outbreaks of poultry disease we see.
As hobbyists, it is up to us to educate others, to teach new chicken owners and to advocate for vaccines, quarantines, and proper flock management.
I believe this to be true in part. Think of all the new people who post in the health and illness section. Many of them wonder why fluffy and poofertail sniffle or have bubbly eyes, or why the ten chickens they bought at auction are dropping dead, etc.
They're new. They don't know. They got that sick bird/disease from somewhere, and I guarantee the hatchery didn't drop the birds off at the auction, it was likely Joe Schmoe from down the road who got sick of his chickens or hatched too many.
Now, I differentiate educated small HOBBYISTS from the casual keeper of some random layers or a barnyard flock. There is a difference between those who simply have some birds running around their lot that they throw scratch to a few times a week and those who build runs, carefully choose breeds, read up about diseases, are aware that there ARE vaccines for poultry, etc.
Different even from them is the dedicated poultry fancier. It's the educated small hobbyist who got the fire in their belly for poultry, who has the passion for a particular breed or breeds and enjoys showing, who wants to preserve the breed in the form it is supposed to be according to the standard of protection. These people do take some of their birds off of their premises to areas where large numbers of other birds are, but many are very aware of potential risks and guard against them. Most quarantine, many vaccinate for more than one disease, they pay attention to birds cooped around theirs at the shows. They often educate others.
Now I realize each description is a stereotype, and there are always people who are a mix of one or more, or who don't fit the mold... but I digress.
My point is that some of the small joe schmoe chicken keepers, the ones with little invested in their chickens, the casual swappers,... and even the well intentioned but unexperienced backyard flock owner- they do carry and spread disease. The large poultry producers often practice 'all in, all out', many vaccinate. If they get an illness, it's not the loss of a small flock of ten, but the loss of thousands of birds and loss of income.
I'm not saying mass agriculture keeps birds in pristine conditions with plenty of room where they experience little stress, but I am saying that I don't think they are responsible for a lot of the small outbreaks of poultry disease we see.
As hobbyists, it is up to us to educate others, to teach new chicken owners and to advocate for vaccines, quarantines, and proper flock management.
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Ok, so we still have no idea what caused Chloe's hives... They spread over her entire body, up to her face. So off to the ER we went. All they could say was that it is an allergic reaction to something. Gave her benadryl, and a mild steroid... Hopefully this will clear up, and I can figure out what is causing her hives.
I do have to say though... That was the quikest ER trip I have ever experienced. We were in and out of there in under 30 minutes. I was shocked...
I sincerly hope everyone has had a better night than I have.
Ok, so we still have no idea what caused Chloe's hives... They spread over her entire body, up to her face. So off to the ER we went. All they could say was that it is an allergic reaction to something. Gave her benadryl, and a mild steroid... Hopefully this will clear up, and I can figure out what is causing her hives.
I do have to say though... That was the quikest ER trip I have ever experienced. We were in and out of there in under 30 minutes. I was shocked...
I sincerly hope everyone has had a better night than I have.
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Wow I didn't know that was even possible. I can remember a visit to Harrison hospital years ago with my DS, and I know that we were there for at least a couple of hours in the middle of the night. We were camping out on the Kitsap peninsula, and it turns out he had whooping cough. Apparently it is good to expose the kid to the night air, we had that covered that night. I am still not sure how he would have come down with whooping cough given the fact that he had been vaccinated against it.
Chloe's hives sound rather scary. You were right in taking her in and having it checked out. I really hope you can figure out what is causing them, and that Chloe has a speedy recovery. My DS had what looked like bug bites on his arm when he was about twelve, that swelled up into massive lumps on his arm. The doctor that I took him to twice never did come up with what was wrong with DS. I learned much later that it was most likely to have been a MRSA infection. But every since anytime he get a mosquito bite he will still get massive lumps for awhile.
Wow I didn't know that was even possible. I can remember a visit to Harrison hospital years ago with my DS, and I know that we were there for at least a couple of hours in the middle of the night. We were camping out on the Kitsap peninsula, and it turns out he had whooping cough. Apparently it is good to expose the kid to the night air, we had that covered that night. I am still not sure how he would have come down with whooping cough given the fact that he had been vaccinated against it.
Chloe's hives sound rather scary. You were right in taking her in and having it checked out. I really hope you can figure out what is causing them, and that Chloe has a speedy recovery. My DS had what looked like bug bites on his arm when he was about twelve, that swelled up into massive lumps on his arm. The doctor that I took him to twice never did come up with what was wrong with DS. I learned much later that it was most likely to have been a MRSA infection. But every since anytime he get a mosquito bite he will still get massive lumps for awhile.
That was the quikest ER trip I have ever experienced. We were in and out of there in under 30 minutes. I was shocked...
If you don't have insurance your second "shock" will be in the mail shortly.
Was in the ER then admitted. 18 hours total. Over 11K. The items they had on the bill if you ask for an itemized bill it is no wonder our health care is in the shape it's in.
One example............When brought in only wanted relief. So instead of my mind working right I didn't question things. They did an EKG on me. My situation had nothing at all to do with my heart. I asked why they did that at billing a week later. The billing clerk said they are required to do it for liability issues because of lawsuits.
In other words if tort reform which should have been changed in the up coming joke called heath care reform my bill be much less and doctors could do their job without taking time doing steps they know are un necessary just by looking at the person and other factors.
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My daughter had the same thing happen to her when she was young. Took her to the docs. Bunch of tests run. Came back she was allergic to a bunch of stuff. Over the years she has not as much breakouts. With her it seems to have got better as she gets older. Hopefully your daughter do the same.
Not sure if you know this but most hospitals have a phone number where you can call and get advice whether or not you should bring your kid in now or wait to go see a doc. When we were first parents we used that once and it was a great help.
If you don't have insurance your second "shock" will be in the mail shortly.
Was in the ER then admitted. 18 hours total. Over 11K. The items they had on the bill if you ask for an itemized bill it is no wonder our health care is in the shape it's in.
One example............When brought in only wanted relief. So instead of my mind working right I didn't question things. They did an EKG on me. My situation had nothing at all to do with my heart. I asked why they did that at billing a week later. The billing clerk said they are required to do it for liability issues because of lawsuits.
In other words if tort reform which should have been changed in the up coming joke called heath care reform my bill be much less and doctors could do their job without taking time doing steps they know are un necessary just by looking at the person and other factors.
BTW...................
My daughter had the same thing happen to her when she was young. Took her to the docs. Bunch of tests run. Came back she was allergic to a bunch of stuff. Over the years she has not as much breakouts. With her it seems to have got better as she gets older. Hopefully your daughter do the same.
Not sure if you know this but most hospitals have a phone number where you can call and get advice whether or not you should bring your kid in now or wait to go see a doc. When we were first parents we used that once and it was a great help.
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If you don't have insurance your second "shock" will be in the mail shortly.
Was in the ER then admitted. 18 hours total. Over 11K. The items they had on the bill if you ask for an itemized bill it is no wonder our health care is in the shape it's in.
One example............When brought in only wanted relief. So instead of my mind working right I didn't question things. They did an EKG on me. My situation had nothing at all to do with my heart. I asked why they did that at billing a week later. The billing clerk said they are required to do it for liability issues because of lawsuits.
In other words if tort reform which should have been changed in the up coming joke called heath care reform my bill be much less and doctors could do their job without taking time doing steps they know are un necessary just by looking at the person and other factors.
BTW...................
My daughter had the same thing happen to her when she was young. Took her to the docs. Bunch of tests run. Came back she was allergic to a bunch of stuff. Over the years she has not as much breakouts. With her it seems to have got better as she gets older. Hopefully your daughter do the same.
Not sure if you know this but most hospitals have a phone number where you can call and get advice whether or not you should bring your kid in now or wait to go see a doc. When we were first parents we used that once and it was a great help.
Well luckily we have full medical for Chloe. So there wont be the huge shock, like if it was me going in... We have narrowed it down to three possible causes. Her new clothes, a new brand of snack, or her new carseats box... Those are the new things, that she was in contact with, within an hours time before her hives. So no more of that new snack, "generic cheese puffs that her grandpa baught her." Her new clothes are in the was, and she wont be playing with that box anymore... It has to be one of those three... As they are the only new items here... She's passed out from the benadryl, and the hives aren't anywhere near as bad. But boy did it trip me out last night...
When I knocked myself out a few months ago, It cost me over $4600.00 just to be checked for a cuncussion.
If you don't have insurance your second "shock" will be in the mail shortly.
Was in the ER then admitted. 18 hours total. Over 11K. The items they had on the bill if you ask for an itemized bill it is no wonder our health care is in the shape it's in.
One example............When brought in only wanted relief. So instead of my mind working right I didn't question things. They did an EKG on me. My situation had nothing at all to do with my heart. I asked why they did that at billing a week later. The billing clerk said they are required to do it for liability issues because of lawsuits.
In other words if tort reform which should have been changed in the up coming joke called heath care reform my bill be much less and doctors could do their job without taking time doing steps they know are un necessary just by looking at the person and other factors.
BTW...................
My daughter had the same thing happen to her when she was young. Took her to the docs. Bunch of tests run. Came back she was allergic to a bunch of stuff. Over the years she has not as much breakouts. With her it seems to have got better as she gets older. Hopefully your daughter do the same.
Not sure if you know this but most hospitals have a phone number where you can call and get advice whether or not you should bring your kid in now or wait to go see a doc. When we were first parents we used that once and it was a great help.
Well luckily we have full medical for Chloe. So there wont be the huge shock, like if it was me going in... We have narrowed it down to three possible causes. Her new clothes, a new brand of snack, or her new carseats box... Those are the new things, that she was in contact with, within an hours time before her hives. So no more of that new snack, "generic cheese puffs that her grandpa baught her." Her new clothes are in the was, and she wont be playing with that box anymore... It has to be one of those three... As they are the only new items here... She's passed out from the benadryl, and the hives aren't anywhere near as bad. But boy did it trip me out last night...
When I knocked myself out a few months ago, It cost me over $4600.00 just to be checked for a cuncussion.
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Wow I didn't know that was even possible. I can remember a visit to Harrison hospital years ago with my DS, and I know that we were there for at least a couple of hours in the middle of the night. We were camping out on the Kitsap peninsula, and it turns out he had whooping cough. Apparently it is good to expose the kid to the night air, we had that covered that night. I am still not sure how he would have come down with whooping cough given the fact that he had been vaccinated against it.
Chloe's hives sound rather scary. You were right in taking her in and having it checked out. I really hope you can figure out what is causing them, and that Chloe has a speedy recovery. My DS had what looked like bug bites on his arm when he was about twelve, that swelled up into massive lumps on his arm. The doctor that I took him to twice never did come up with what was wrong with DS. I learned much later that it was most likely to have been a MRSA infection. But every since anytime he get a mosquito bite he will still get massive lumps for awhile.
I'm guessing that you went to the Bremerton Campus... I will NOT use that hospital unless it is heart or head trauma... Horible experiences there is all I am going to say. BUT the Silverdale Harrison memorial campus is a wonderfull facility.
Wow I didn't know that was even possible. I can remember a visit to Harrison hospital years ago with my DS, and I know that we were there for at least a couple of hours in the middle of the night. We were camping out on the Kitsap peninsula, and it turns out he had whooping cough. Apparently it is good to expose the kid to the night air, we had that covered that night. I am still not sure how he would have come down with whooping cough given the fact that he had been vaccinated against it.
Chloe's hives sound rather scary. You were right in taking her in and having it checked out. I really hope you can figure out what is causing them, and that Chloe has a speedy recovery. My DS had what looked like bug bites on his arm when he was about twelve, that swelled up into massive lumps on his arm. The doctor that I took him to twice never did come up with what was wrong with DS. I learned much later that it was most likely to have been a MRSA infection. But every since anytime he get a mosquito bite he will still get massive lumps for awhile.
I'm guessing that you went to the Bremerton Campus... I will NOT use that hospital unless it is heart or head trauma... Horible experiences there is all I am going to say. BUT the Silverdale Harrison memorial campus is a wonderfull facility.
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