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[justbugged]

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Me too! I asked for DE and they just stared at me, so I had to try to say it and then they looked at me like I was a moron. And when I asked for food-grade, they said, "there is only one kind", real snotty-like, so I got a huge bag, probably 50 lbs, and I am sure it is the wrong thing. Dang it! Glad I wasn't the only one who felt like an idiot!

Bills Country Farm and Feed in Enumclaw carries the food grade DE in 50lbs bags. I buy it that way. They may not know about the pool grade. I would think that the pool grade stuff would say something about pools and filters on the bad. The food grade doesn't mention use that way. What store did you buy your bag at?

 

[broodytood]

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Hey there!!

glad your here! stick around you will learn lots!!

Chatty has been redefined because of this thread!!!!

 

[4cats3kids1hubby2many]

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I remember those days. They actually told me I could leave the room and then "come to her rescue". I cried and cried and cried. DD also had pneumonia. That needle was huge. It was awful all the way around.

 

[pettec63]

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I often buy Purina because it is what is sold at Ace (they sell Abers as well, but at $22 for 50 pounds, I seldom buy it). I was told that Purina poultry feed is from their Spokane mill and the grains are all grown fairly local to there.

I do like to support Patriot farms because of their sustainable practices, but the food is very fine and dusty. It makes a dusty mess inside the coop so I now will only use it in the outdoor feeders. I also had issues with a batch of chicks I was raising on it. They were growing very slowly and at about 5-6 weeks old, some got the wobbles. I read that wobbles are frequently due to a vitamin defficiency (forgot which one), so I switched the chicks to manna-pro and purina chick start (alternated daily) and the wobbles cleared up within a few days.

The same types of plants and grains will not always produce the same levels of vitamins and proteins, even when grown under the same condition. I don't know if Scott tests each batch - that may be cost prohibitive. A large operation despite my aversion supporting them, will usually have more testing done. My adult birds have never had issues on his feed, and they love it.

Years ago I worked as a researcher in the pharmaceutical field at a contract research company. Some of our biggest clients were pharma companies that make natural products supplements like what you can buy in health-food stores (Germany is one of very few countries that regulates natural products. In this country they are so poorly regulated they often contain none of the products they advertise and sometimes even contain addictive drugs to keep you hooked on them!) We tested plant extracts for them to ensure that they made their products with the same level of active ingredients from batch to batch. Just because you use the same amount of St. John's wort plant extract for each batch of pills you make does not mean that the active levels will be the same. Expression levels of active ingredients vary in response to weather, water, and other stressors. The same woud be true for vitamin levels in grains used to make chicken feed.

Hey thanks for the extra information on supplements!! That's good to know! well I did know about the law and that you can't be sure about what you get, but the Germany thing that's interesting!!

 

[justbugged]

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Poor baby! I can remember crying with my babies when they got their shots. I would let her sleep.

 

[justbugged]

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Hey there!!

glad your here! stick around you will learn lots!!

Chatty has been redefined because of this thread!!!!

So so true, but were else would you have this many friends.

 

[broodytood]

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Chatty has been redefined because of this thread!!!!

So so true, but were else would you have this many friends.

Yes and eggcellent friens they are!!!!

 

[Rare Feathers Farm]

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Oh poor kiddo!!! I just asked that question in my pm to you, (your box is full and I can't send it) lol! Dang I hate when you have to hold them like that!!

Sorry...my email is [email protected] if you'd like to send it there. I have to wait on my PFM email to go through to whoever "approves" those sorts of things so my inbox is 1060% full.

 

[justbugged]

Okay I have to go and pick up my glass for the fish tank and the chicken coop window. And Ron that means I will get it done today.

 

[Rare Feathers Farm]

She woke up....I changed her diaper, put her in a sleep sack (I thought it would be better on her thighs), she ate 4oz and now she's laying on her jungle mat thing....

And yes, it's got chickens on it!

She did smile........