I did not intend to sound like the pretty stoves are just for looks. See some stoves heat well, some stoves look very nice and some stoves look very nice and heat well too. Mine (like me) is pretty short on looks.
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Maple is good, yes, oak is better but hard to find and jealously hoarded. Doug Fir bark is the classic overnight fuel but there's no way to burn it that doesn't violate clean air laws and fill your chimney with creosote. Keeping a stove going overnight involves the right stove, the right wood, and the right amount of ash left in to insulate the last coals.
I miss having a wood stove, I do not miss having to deal with the fine points of feeding it.
Oh but there is. See but it is new (only 10 year old) technology so you probably haven't been exposed to it.
Probably not- I haven't had to heat with wood for a very long time, although if there was a safe place for a woodstove in this soggy cardboard box I'd have one. I'm always getting stuck with dealing with my sister's stove, though, so there ya go.
Maple is good, yes, oak is better but hard to find and jealously hoarded. Doug Fir bark is the classic overnight fuel but there's no way to burn it that doesn't violate clean air laws and fill your chimney with creosote. Keeping a stove going overnight involves the right stove, the right wood, and the right amount of ash left in to insulate the last coals.
I miss having a wood stove, I do not miss having to deal with the fine points of feeding it.
Oh but there is. See but it is new (only 10 year old) technology so you probably haven't been exposed to it.
Probably not- I haven't had to heat with wood for a very long time, although if there was a safe place for a woodstove in this soggy cardboard box I'd have one. I'm always getting stuck with dealing with my sister's stove, though, so there ya go.
HoneysuckleHills. Couple comments...............
Good news is you are burning at least a years worth split and dry. If you really want to get serious they have moisture meters you can buy.
Burning wood the right way is all about it being TRULY seasoned.
We've used wood heat as only source of heat since 1992.
During that time due to health issues there was a few years where I was burning wood only split 6 months.
You can tell a big difference between that and two year old wood.
If you have the space, $$$, try to get a two year supply.
Burning two year old split wood not only will you receive more heat you will go through less wood. It is definitely worth it. Three years even better.
I doubt you get an over night burn in that due to space available for wood.
I have a bigger one then you and still don't get it.
CR's has enough room to get the over night burn with fir.
Look into what the cost would be to clean your own pipes. I can't believe that so called professional said only every two or three years.
Oh sure some people get lucky but if you have ever watched your neighbors house start to burn down due to lack of maintenance reality sets in.
You can buy the brushes for $10.00. Not sure if there is a stick that bends through your curves or they take them apart but you do it once you'll find out it isn't that hard.
Wood stoves are the best heat there is but I want to know my family is safe. I clean mine twice a year. At beginning of season and mid season.
The amount of money you'd spend buying hardwoods my guess is you'd be WAY ahead buying those logs for .90 on sale this weekend.
When we want heat through the night with embers in the morning we throw one of those in right before bed.
When it's warm like last night we don't use one because the fire lasts into the night and the house is so warm it stays fine even when the fire goes out.
Here is a great place to educate ones self about burning wood.
http://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/
Good news is you are burning at least a years worth split and dry. If you really want to get serious they have moisture meters you can buy.
Burning wood the right way is all about it being TRULY seasoned.
We've used wood heat as only source of heat since 1992.
During that time due to health issues there was a few years where I was burning wood only split 6 months.
You can tell a big difference between that and two year old wood.
If you have the space, $$$, try to get a two year supply.
Burning two year old split wood not only will you receive more heat you will go through less wood. It is definitely worth it. Three years even better.
I doubt you get an over night burn in that due to space available for wood.
I have a bigger one then you and still don't get it.
CR's has enough room to get the over night burn with fir.
Look into what the cost would be to clean your own pipes. I can't believe that so called professional said only every two or three years.
Oh sure some people get lucky but if you have ever watched your neighbors house start to burn down due to lack of maintenance reality sets in.
You can buy the brushes for $10.00. Not sure if there is a stick that bends through your curves or they take them apart but you do it once you'll find out it isn't that hard.
Wood stoves are the best heat there is but I want to know my family is safe. I clean mine twice a year. At beginning of season and mid season.
The amount of money you'd spend buying hardwoods my guess is you'd be WAY ahead buying those logs for .90 on sale this weekend.
When we want heat through the night with embers in the morning we throw one of those in right before bed.
When it's warm like last night we don't use one because the fire lasts into the night and the house is so warm it stays fine even when the fire goes out.
Here is a great place to educate ones self about burning wood.
http://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/
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This may make a little more sense to ya. Imagine a very large river that only has a bridge across it every 100 miles. That is basically what it is like only instead of river it is large mountain range that is being crossed.
Although you've got to admit we've got the river thing going, too.
And your point !!!! I was simply trying to use an example that may be easier for a (as BNF put it) "flat lander" to understand ! ! ! ! !
This may make a little more sense to ya. Imagine a very large river that only has a bridge across it every 100 miles. That is basically what it is like only instead of river it is large mountain range that is being crossed.
Although you've got to admit we've got the river thing going, too.
And your point !!!! I was simply trying to use an example that may be easier for a (as BNF put it) "flat lander" to understand ! ! ! ! !
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Well, there's Stevens or White, but White is higher and for the rest of the winter the best you can count on "packed snow and ice" as the best road conditions, and to take Stevens from Ellensburg you either have to drive ANOTHER mountain pass (Blewitt) or take WA97, which yesterday was a sheet of ice from George to Wenatchee and THEN get to drive to Olympia via all of Seattle, which hallerlake can tell you is its own kind of joy.
Satus Pass to the Columbia Gorge is another kettle of fish: says something that the first time (in my life of visiting relatives an the Eastside and going to WSU) I ever took Satus was on my 25th wedding anniversary. There was that jolly time a few years ago when all of the easy passes from Vancouver to Vancouver were closed by a nightmare storm (the one that also wiped out the road up to Paradise) and basically nobody went anywhere.
Satus is barely a pass more like a big hump in the road. Rarely if ever closed.
Exactly; it just doesn't go anywhere particularly useful: beautiful, my lord, but I rarely have busness in, say, Bingen or even Umatilla.
(why yes, I am typing this with bandaids on three fingers because my hangnails have hangnails).
Well, there's Stevens or White, but White is higher and for the rest of the winter the best you can count on "packed snow and ice" as the best road conditions, and to take Stevens from Ellensburg you either have to drive ANOTHER mountain pass (Blewitt) or take WA97, which yesterday was a sheet of ice from George to Wenatchee and THEN get to drive to Olympia via all of Seattle, which hallerlake can tell you is its own kind of joy.
Satus Pass to the Columbia Gorge is another kettle of fish: says something that the first time (in my life of visiting relatives an the Eastside and going to WSU) I ever took Satus was on my 25th wedding anniversary. There was that jolly time a few years ago when all of the easy passes from Vancouver to Vancouver were closed by a nightmare storm (the one that also wiped out the road up to Paradise) and basically nobody went anywhere.
Satus is barely a pass more like a big hump in the road. Rarely if ever closed.
Exactly; it just doesn't go anywhere particularly useful: beautiful, my lord, but I rarely have busness in, say, Bingen or even Umatilla.
(why yes, I am typing this with bandaids on three fingers because my hangnails have hangnails).
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Although you've got to admit we've got the river thing going, too.
And your point !!!! I was simply trying to use an example that may be easier for a (as BNF put it) "flat lander" to understand ! ! ! ! !
Nah- that was "agree and expand," man, no problem.
I'm cynical about these things: comes from explaining too often why one can't go the short way from Seattle to Kalaloch, or take a short cut from Yelm to Tacoma.
Although you've got to admit we've got the river thing going, too.
And your point !!!! I was simply trying to use an example that may be easier for a (as BNF put it) "flat lander" to understand ! ! ! ! !
Nah- that was "agree and expand," man, no problem.
I'm cynical about these things: comes from explaining too often why one can't go the short way from Seattle to Kalaloch, or take a short cut from Yelm to Tacoma.
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Some very good points Greg. And I did miss the point about cleaning. see if you have 2 bends those are the place that will build up. I also say clean it more often. At least 1x a year. I clean my own it is so simple you need to know how tall the flue is then you can buy the flexible fiberglass rods and brush.
And yes as Greg said the dryer the wood the more heat and the less wood you will use. IMHO Fir and Tamarack (western larch) are very good. Pine is fair, I will cut andburn it if it is there but would step over it for fir. Alder is decent. Maple pretty good. Oak and Ash are both very good but hard to get, take for ever to dry good (like 2-3 years) and leave a lot of ash in the stove. But they both burn very long. Cotton wood is a waste of time, by the time it is dry enough to burn it burns like paper.
Some very good points Greg. And I did miss the point about cleaning. see if you have 2 bends those are the place that will build up. I also say clean it more often. At least 1x a year. I clean my own it is so simple you need to know how tall the flue is then you can buy the flexible fiberglass rods and brush.
And yes as Greg said the dryer the wood the more heat and the less wood you will use. IMHO Fir and Tamarack (western larch) are very good. Pine is fair, I will cut andburn it if it is there but would step over it for fir. Alder is decent. Maple pretty good. Oak and Ash are both very good but hard to get, take for ever to dry good (like 2-3 years) and leave a lot of ash in the stove. But they both burn very long. Cotton wood is a waste of time, by the time it is dry enough to burn it burns like paper.
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Exactly; it just doesn't go anywhere particularly useful: beautiful, my lord, but I rarely have busness in, say, Bingen or even Umatilla.
(why yes, I am typing this with bandaids on three fingers because my hangnails have hangnails).
But What about Goldendale, Biggs Junction, Rufus, Celilo, The Dalles, Lyle, Dufur or enroute to California !
Exactly; it just doesn't go anywhere particularly useful: beautiful, my lord, but I rarely have busness in, say, Bingen or even Umatilla.
(why yes, I am typing this with bandaids on three fingers because my hangnails have hangnails).
But What about Goldendale, Biggs Junction, Rufus, Celilo, The Dalles, Lyle, Dufur or enroute to California !
My son brought this home today.
Albuquerque Turkey (sung to Clementine/Oh My Darling)
Albuquerque, he's my turkey,
And he's feathered, and he's fine,
And he wobbles, and he gobbles,
And I'm awfully glad he's mine.
He's the best pet you can ever get,
Better than a dog or cat,
Albuquerque, he's my turkey,
And I'm awfully glad of that.
Albuquerque, he's my turkey,
He's so cozy in his bed,
'Cause for our Thanksgiving dinner,
We had scrambled eggs instead!
Albuquerque Turkey (sung to Clementine/Oh My Darling)
Albuquerque, he's my turkey,
And he's feathered, and he's fine,
And he wobbles, and he gobbles,
And I'm awfully glad he's mine.
He's the best pet you can ever get,
Better than a dog or cat,
Albuquerque, he's my turkey,
And I'm awfully glad of that.
Albuquerque, he's my turkey,
He's so cozy in his bed,
'Cause for our Thanksgiving dinner,
We had scrambled eggs instead!
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Haa haa, I love Albuquerue Turkey!! My son's 2nd grade class sang that for us, the teacher recorded it and put it up on her blog for all the parents to see.
Haa haa, I love Albuquerue Turkey!! My son's 2nd grade class sang that for us, the teacher recorded it and put it up on her blog for all the parents to see.
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