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The Animal Rights and Earth First activists have been touting these false fears since the 60's. I once read several years ago that if you rounded up every single person on the whole earth, you could put them all in the state of Utah and have room left over. So much for overpopulation.
As for running out of water, I recruit Civil Engineers and we are nowhere close to running out of water. Moreover, we probably have more water than we did a hundred years ago. Does anyone remember all the glaciers that are melting? And the oceans are supposedly rising? And not only is there probably more water in general but there is a whole lot more clean, drinkable water on the earth now than there ever has been. Oh, and that would be thanks to man and the wisdom that God gave him. People are living a much healthier and longer life in many areas of this world that they ever did before because they now have the ability to possess clean water.
I used to be very heavily involved in the Environmental Movement. After years and years of reading the stuff that many of those organizations were spouting, I began to see more and more inconsistencies and contradictions in the arguments and logic. If one chooses to look into it as well and really study what they claim, I think they will too.
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Are you going to volunteer to be first? Who is?
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Number 1) Says who? On what authority do you make this claim?
Number 2) Animals never have nor should they ever have equal rights with human beings. There is even an attempt underway at this very time for animals to be given legal rights and lawyers who are lining up to defend them. God help us all when that happens.
Number 3) Animals, plants, insects, you-name-it have been going extinct since the beginning of time. They always have. They always will.
Number 4) It is not selfishness to put human beings ahead of animals. If that means "wiping them off the planet" in order to sustain human life, then that's the way it is. Humans MUST be the priority. And for anyone to make the claim otherwise is just flat outright hypocrisy. Every time you eat an egg, you kill a potential chicken (or duck or goose or what-have-you). Does no one on here eat chicken? Each and every one of us humans have a better life because we use animals in one form or another. It is NOT selfishness to put humans first. It is simply following the natural order for which life was intended to be.
Number 5) There is a book that I read that makes the claim to be the final authority and I believe it is. That book makes the claim that there is a God who is in control and that man is not. Personally, I think if one thinks that humans can actually control this earth and what happens on it, well that's just laughable. Everything on this earth is far too complex for man to ever be in control - though many think they can be.
The Bible is clear, Genesis 1:26-30 says, "Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth. God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. God blessed them; and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth." Then God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you; and to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the sky and to every thing that moves on the earth which has life, I have given every green plant for food"; and it was so." The emphasis in both is mine of course.
And that makes it about as clear as it can get. There is ONLY one creation made in the image and likeness of God and that is man. No animal ever was or ever will be equal to man. One can choose to disregard the "authority" which I use but at least I have one. It is not my own. It is not my "brain" or lack thereof on which I rely. In fact, I am saying that I choose to accept an "authority" which is far and above over any intelligence that any man could ever have.
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Not only was it not necessary but I've never met a parent or a couple yet that sat down and said, "You know dear, I need a kid to mow the lawn, and one to do the dishes, and one to feed the chickens, and one to clean the house, and one to plow the field, etc. etc." I mean who did that? Who does that? You'd have to be awful self-centered to be thinking ahead like that.
No, rather I believe "Happy is the man whose quiver is full of arrows."
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Again... Says who? On what authority do you make this claim? Define "overbreed". Define "rape". But before you do, you better be able to back it up because I can guarantee you that your definition can be taken to an even greater extreme by somebody. By some "man" who thinks his or her definition of a "right" is more accurate and better than yours. And who says animals have rights?????????? What rights? To what extent? Who decides that??? Oh yeah, the lawyers that are lining up to defend those rights. Now I remember. Give me a break! People are you ready for that???????????
Animals do not have rights. Mankind has a responsibility to manage animals in manner that reflects good stewardship. The idea that animals could even have rights came out of the mentality that animals are somehow equal to man. That is a lie. And I personally believe it is a lie that came from decades of promoting another lie which claims that we are nothing more than a by-product of monkeys and ultimately some Amoeba or something that splashed up onto the earth. There is a very real distinction between man and animals. Mankind has rights and as our Declaration of Independence claims, those rights are inalienable and given by God. Animals have no such thing. Man simply has the very real and serious responsibility of being a good steward of those animals for which he or she is entrusted with.
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Again... Says who? On what authority do you make this claim? I just stated my authority for the opposite above. If we are not hear to rule over and use, then who or what is? Do you really expect to have some lawyer come in an argue that you have no right to eat an egg because you are supposedly killing the innocent life and procreation of the chicken who laid it?
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Again, do you volunteer to go first? Anyone else on here volunteer to go first so that some dog, cat, or chicken can live a little longer?
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Rant, yes. Inconvenient, yes. Truth, not even close. For it to be Truth it would have to be arguably supported, logical, and assume at least some measure of a "reasonable man's theory". All one has to do is look at the rhetorical questions I've posed to see that this kind of "truth" has more holes that Swiss Cheese.
Finally, it is this kind of discussion that is really a good thing to have and it is related to poultry if one thinks about it. I assume everyone on here either at least has chickens or has a keen interest in them since they are coming to BYC. Chickens are a part of our everyday life but they fit WITHIN our overall world view. Several times it has been stated that "man has no right". And it's been stated that we are not here to "rule over and use". And I ask, can any of us really say with any degree of intellectual honesty that we don't "rule over and use"? We all do and there is simply no way of getting around that. So it is not a matter of "if" we do but rather "how" and more importantly "WHO" gets to decide. As for me an my house, I choose to put my trust in those who believe that man is vastly different than animals and NOT on equal par. I do NOT want some person making the rules who believes that a chicken, duck, monkey, dog, cat, cow, you-name-it animal has the same rights as I do. Do you?
So we all must decide, do we put our trust in mankind or in God who knows all, sees all, and is all. His Book says, "There is a way that seems right unto a man and that way leads to death" and "thinking themselves to be wise, they became fools." Given what I've seen man do and call intelligent, personally it's really easy for me to go with the latter.
God Bless,