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I have heard of a wormer that doesn't require tossing eggs. BUT last I knew you couldn't buy it in the states and had to order from like the UK or something. And from what I saw it was rather pricey. Sorry don't recall the name seems like it may start with a V
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Don't know about that one, but Eprinex is the same way - no egg withdrawl.
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Is she shipping or are ya doing a road trip??

She's gonna ship. Already went to OMSI this month so I can't use that excuse for another road trip.
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Plus, in that monster of a car of mine, I'd spend way more in gas.
 
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Shipping.
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OK I was just thinking of trying to plot a relay
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Yeah, I kinda thought so, and actually it's a good idea, after I read that I PM'd her to see if she'd be interested in meeting part way.
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We worm the cattle twice a year- Ivermectin pour-on in fall and Valbizen drench in spring; this gets around the problem of resistant strains pretty well, as well as dealing with Ivermectin's lack of effect against tapeworms. There's a problem with Valbezin, at least in drench form: it's apparently nasty tasting, and the older a cow is the more likely they are to spit most of it out (I wish there was a Temple Grandin level study on vet medicinse to get past the idea that it doesn't matter if oral meds are palatable or if pour-ons sting). I have not noticed any negative effect on soil helminths, but have noted a lack of fleas and ticks (and ear mites, now that I think of it) on the wildlings around my house and in result on my cat and dogs. Mikie's chickens already range the pasture, so I'm unlikely to have my chickens competing with them and getting dosed with second-hand wormer.

The mad tenant (evicted sixteen years ago, after sixteen years free rent and growing craziness) was a master falconer, and wormed his prairie falcons with Niclosemide, which is not approved for chickens although he used it on them; the chickens -RIR/probably production reds) were kept for falcon food and the eggs fed to his dog. There's a lot of OTC pet wormers which are mostly piperazine, against which practically everything has developed immunity.

I suspect I will be spending a lot of this morning reading the worming threads.
 
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I have heard of a wormer that doesn't require tossing eggs. BUT last I knew you couldn't buy it in the states and had to order from like the UK or something. And from what I saw it was rather pricey. Sorry don't recall the name seems like it may start with a V
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Don't know about that one, but Eprinex is the same way - no egg withdrawl.
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If you use Eprinex, do you still need to use Wazine first?

I just noticed a couple if itty bitty teeny tiny mites on my injured hen when I inspected her to see how she's healing. I picked up 5 other hens and found the same mites on 2 others. I suspect the rest have them too, but their feathers are too thick and fluffy to see the skin under them. The girls look healthy with shiny feathers and it did not see and build-up of eggs or anything nasty, so I think they must have gotten them recently, or do chickens always have a few mites? Anyways, I bought MannaPro Poultry Protector and I'm going to completely clean the coops again, spray them down with this stuff, put new bedding down, then spray the bedding and the birds.
 
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Don't know about that one, but Eprinex is the same way - no egg withdrawl.
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If you use Eprinex, do you still need to use Wazine first?

I just noticed a couple if itty bitty teeny tiny mites on my injured hen when I inspected her to see how she's healing. I picked up 5 other hens and found the same mites on 2 others. I suspect the rest have them too, but their feathers are too thick and fluffy to see the skin under them. The girls look healthy with shiny feathers and it did not see and build-up of eggs or anything nasty, so I think they must have gotten them recently, or do chickens always have a few mites? Anyways, I bought MannaPro Poultry Protector and I'm going to completely clean the coops again, spray them down with this stuff, put new bedding down, then spray the bedding and the birds.

I used wazine the first time I dewormed some adult birds, but no, I usually don't. You only have to use Wazine first if you think they might have a HUGE parasite load, since it only takes care of a few types of worms, it prevents a massive die-off clogging the intestinal tract on the way out. If your birds are dewormed regularly, you do not have to use wazine first.
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No, they shouldn't always have a few mites, they should be mite and lice free. I really struggled with mites last year, it was a PAIN to get rid of them. Several complete bedding changes, once a week, filling the bedding with Sevin each time, etc...
 
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