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I sort of wish I could go from Omak to Toppenish today: as wet as it's been, there should be some amazing flowers in bloom.

Isn't Toppenish 30 minutes on the other side of Yakima when you're coming from Omak?
 
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A friend of mine moved in with his father during that worthy's last illness, and found that the ivy had been encouraged to grow across the kitching ceiling and down over the fireplace in the living room.
 
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I sort of wish I could go from Omak to Toppenish today: as wet as it's been, there should be some amazing flowers in bloom.

Isn't Toppenish 30 minutes on the other side of Yakima when you're coming from Omak?

Well Omak is up north on 97, I mean you can get there coming down 90 from Ellensburg to 82 and yes about 30 min south east.
 
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Uhm horses do require a considerable amount of work to PROPERLY care for and they are NOT cheap to have.


As for goats they will do a fine job of going right after any favorite plants or other things you don't want them chewing on!!!! And for keeping them penned up I always used a good electric fence run at 6" and 16" above the ground. Never had any problems. But let the fencer fail and they were out.

Yes I had a pony growing up so I know all about the care not being cheap. If I had known back then that all I needed was clippers to clip his shedding hair off he wouldn't have been choking so much & those spendy vet bills, my mom sold him to the vet for $1 & he waved the last vet bill. He had little kids so Tuffy got to train up some more kids. That was a sad day as he was my best friend, had him almost 10yrs but the vet let us come visit him. I had out grown him but was still able to ride him on short trail rides, shetland at 10.5 hands. When we do get some land I plan on jumping into horses slowly. I want to find a trainer that can train us, daughter & I , about horse care since it has been 17 - 18yrs.
I was talking about goats being somewhat easy care, sheep wouldn't be easy as they have wool that needs to come off each yr etc. If I got mini cattle I'd get attached & hubby would want to eat them. Even dogs aren't easy care so I know each animal I get will need some care.

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So speaking of goats, anyone know if goats will eat rhodies? I know that rhodies are bad for goats, I just wonder if the goat knows they are bad & will stay away from them naturally? Just a question my husband asked me & I didn't know.

Shannon

Oh they eat them ok, and they get very very sick , than the next time they get to your yard they head straight to the same plant and do the same thing. Than when you come home you see your sweet husband and son have take the rhodies all out of your yard. Why honey did you do that, well I dont want to smell you like that and hate to see you cry because your goat might not make it. Yep he took out one that I had gotten from my great uncle who has passed. I was so mad but you know I couldnt say anything because he's just a great husband.

I only have a few Rhododendrons, and none of them are where I'm going to pasture the sheep- especially the three biggest, which are in the cold spot outside my bedroom window, where all the irrigation hoses come together and keep the soil temps low: that's also a wasteland of (editorial comments deleted) creeping buttercup, so I'll have to hard-fence it against chickens too, before I start the next round of my battle against the darned things.

Last year we had an outbreak of Water Hemlock up by the composter, but that didn't come back after we made sure it didn't go to seed. That's a particular nasty for small mammals.
 
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It was last yr when I bought 4 chicks from a guy in Orting. He had a lot of chicks in a horse stall. I got 2 RIR, 1 GLW & 1 white / cream feathered with green down EE. The EE didn't start loosing feathers but the other 3 were. Turned out it was picking on the other ones, they had bald backs. We seperated the EE but if it got loose it made a bee line to the other chicks & started pulling feathers. We found it another home but it died 2wks later. The lady didn't know why. Just weird.

Shannon

I've had bad luck with birds from this guy too -- Donald is his name. Nice enough folks, but they are chicken-traders, not chicken-lovers. I would not recommend getting birds from them

I agree. I was really bummed about my GLW. I have 2 SLW that were big & plump. Even though they are hatchery I feel they have the correct look for a SLW. The GLW was horrible quality, she had pretty color & that was it. No body to her. I was very disappointed in her. I did keep the RIR & they are good. I don't know the standard on them but with them I'm just looking for good layers & good personality which they both have. Although one has taken to chasing my sheltie & cocker (females) so they try to avoid the chickens. The chickens like to stand next to the steps & the sheltie won't come up the steps if that chicken is next to it. Sometimes its silly but other times its frustrating when I need the dogs back in the house & the chicken is being a pain.

Shannon
 
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I sort of wish I could go from Omak to Toppenish today: as wet as it's been, there should be some amazing flowers in bloom.

Isn't Toppenish 30 minutes on the other side of Yakima when you're coming from Omak?

Well Omak is up north on 97, I mean you can get there coming down 90 from Ellensburg to 82 and yes about 30 min south east.

Yeah, I know- I had relatives in Omak.

When my Mom was little, her family used to drive from Yelm to Omak every summer after the hay was in and the cows were all dry (old-timey Jersey Dairy, back when refrigeration was not so grand, and they bred all their cows to calve from August to early October): Grandpa and Grandma and however many of their dozen kids (the eldest two were married before the youngest was born) piled into a Model T pick-up, over White Pass and through the Wenas before any of the real highways were made (this being 1930-1936, Mom was born in 1926 and her father died ten years later), and before most of it was paved: 25mph all the way. Can you imagine? It's far enough, anyway, without the complications of travel with little kids, travel on bad roads, and travel in July in a Model T. Luckily, at that time, they had relatives at about 20 mile intervals all the way!
 
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We have been raising our herd of goats for going on 9 years now. We have had them get out on many occasion, yes, they nibble on things, yes they eat some of the roses, but they never eat them down enough to kill them, nor do they eat enough of any of the "bad" plants that they will get sick, let alone die. Like I said before, unless your not giving them anything to eat, they do just fine.

Goat owner's dogs and the neighbor's dogs are more of a danger to your goats, than any plant, or wild animal will ever be.
 
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Well Omak is up north on 97, I mean you can get there coming down 90 from Ellensburg to 82 and yes about 30 min south east.

Yeah, I know- I had relatives in Omak.

When my Mom was little, her family used to drive from Yelm to Omak every summer after the hay was in and the cows were all dry (old-timey Jersey Dairy, back when refrigeration was not so grand, and they bred all their cows to calve from August to early October): Grandpa and Grandma and however many of their dozen kids (the eldest two were married before the youngest was born) piled into a Model T pick-up, over White Pass and through the Wenas before any of the real highways were made (this being 1930-1936, Mom was born in 1926 and her father died ten years later), and before most of it was paved: 25mph all the way. Can you imagine? It's far enough, anyway, without the complications of travel with little kids, travel on bad roads, and travel in July in a Model T. Luckily, at that time, they had relatives at about 20 mile intervals all the way!

yep that would be quite an adventure I think!!
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