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[Chicken Rustler]

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Didn't notice this earlier.


We still do it because we are in fact training them NOT to bite the hand. I'm not blaming the dog for the injury though, it happened and that was that. We're not re-homing the dog because of it.

Really !!!!

" We're officially selling the two, sadly. They've unintentionally bitten our hands several times before during feeding, the female isn't getting any more respectful or smart about what she does, and the male isn't getting any more lovey/sweet. The breed in general isn't as we had hoped."

 

[Illia]

If you've a problem, PM me. I mentioned what happened that day, (the bite) then I went on with the real reasons. They aren't as Boerboels are said to be. They aren't the temperament or size they should have been. And I'm sorry but so far the breeders my family have spoken to are in agreement.


And again, - I did not purchase them, I am not personally getting rid of them. None of it is my decision, I'm just agreeing that the female should go. I do not personally own the dogs.

 

[Chickielady]

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So my question is--and forgive me if it sounds wrong....why are you still hand-feeding them if it's happened several times?

I'm 2 days late and a few dollars short on this topic, but I'm just getting caught up on this thread. Having worked with A LOT of dogs in my career, I just can't keep my mouth shut on this one. I'm sorry about your hand Ilia, and I hope you don't suffer any long term damage from the bite, but this was not the dog's fault, and now it is being turned into someone else's problem. Hopefully whoever ends up with the dogs will train them to have a little respect.

X2 it should, if anything, have been expected.
Dangle any bloody raw meat over any dog's head.

I agree whole heartedly.

 

[Chickielady]

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Well, once again I can say that I just keep learning the most interesting things on BYC!
I had to look up camas and Lilaceae which led me to look up wild onions, too. I wanted to know the difference because when I was a little kid my brother and I used to dig up and EAT what HE called Indian Onions. I'm surprised we didn't poison ourselves, but little sisters like me always trusted our big brothers!

Although we didn't have fields of camas where I grew up, we did have a lot of shooting stars and yellow bells. They were SO pretty. But like so many other wild flowers they're really hard to find now. I nearly scared my husband to death one day when I shouted "Stop The Car"! I'd spotted a big patch of shooting stars and just had to go look. It was a little slice of heaven even if I only got to enjoy it for a few minutes!

We went to visit my daughter's friend in White Sulphur Springs after her first year at UM Missoula, and the fields below their ranch house were carpeted in shooting stars- they called them rooster heads, my grandmother cranesbills, and the latin is genus Dodecatheon. Another thing I used to see everywhere, now gone for no greater cause than tidiness.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a41/Julia_here/100_0579.jpg

I have acres of trillium, sporting purple flowers last summer, and seed pods now, if anyone is interested, I will harvest the pods.........

 

[Chicken Rustler]

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ME ME ME !!!! PLEASE

 

[Chickielady]

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I obviously don't know the dogs, I was just going off what the OP said about them (i.e. that they needed to find a new home because of temperament issues).

Just speaking in general terms, I don't think any animal that doesn't have a good temperament should be bred, regardless of how rare or special their bloodlines are. Just my opinion.

I hope everything works out with the dogs. They are young and a lot can change by the time they're fully mature.

Exactly. No matter how great they look, temperament has to come first, or at least near the top of the list, in big muscle-bound dogs like that. That's what happened to so many of these breeds. People think they should breed their dogs just because they can, and they think they'll make a quick buck, and it does absolutely no favors for the breed. Honestly, I have to laugh when people come into our emergency clinic for a $2000 c-section and end up with one or two puppies when they bred their dogs to "make money" to begin with. Breeding animals is rarely, if ever, a money maker.

That really is sad, what you wrote, my neice a vet tech in Vancouver WA getting a bulldog female pup but no right to breed the pup..and she told me the issues in order to breed them and concieve pups was horrible.
I totally agree.
I do not agree with people making up their minds that this dog or that dog (regardless of blue blood or not) should not ever be bred when they are under 1 year of age, and will be puppies until at least 2 years of age.
No dog should be bred under 2 anyways, they need time to develope, body wise and temperment wise.
I have raised dogs for many, many years, and none will be forced judgement on, until it reaches 2 years of age.
Like horses, or cattle or any other animal, they all have to mature, period.
That does not mean that any should be bred for the sole purpose of income.
I am just saying, they need to mature before I would make a decision.
That is all.

 

[TifsBroodyBabes]

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ME ME ME !!!! PLEASE

ME ME ME TOO !!! PLEASE!!! I'll gladly pay you for some...

 

[Chickielady]

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In the end, the dogs are not Illia's, they belong to her mother, and Illia has no say in the decision.
So, in my opinion, we need not torment Illia about it.
End of the discussion.
I hope your hand heals well, and on we go~~~

 

[Stumpfarmer]

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We went to visit my daughter's friend in White Sulphur Springs after her first year at UM Missoula, and the fields below their ranch house were carpeted in shooting stars- they called them rooster heads, my grandmother cranesbills, and the latin is genus Dodecatheon. Another thing I used to see everywhere, now gone for no greater cause than tidiness.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a41/Julia_here/100_0579.jpg

I have acres of trillium, sporting purple flowers last summer, and seed pods now, if anyone is interested, I will harvest the pods.........

I have trillium and deer tongue (white avalanche lily) up on the hill. Trillium's a lot more determined to keep growing than people tend to think and deer tongue re-establishes from adjacent areas pretty readily, and both of them have bulbs way lower than fed pigs dig.

 

[Chickielady]

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ME ME ME !!!! PLEASE

ME ME ME TOO !!! PLEASE!!! I'll gladly pay you for some...

OK!!!!!!!!!!!
I will harvest seed pods tomorrow!!

P.S. We have also gobs of bleeding heart everywhere~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

P.S.S.::::::::::::: Both need intense moisture & shade