week old chick very weak

[Icedangel11]

I have no idea how many grams they are.

 

[casportpony]

I have no idea how many grams they are.

Can you get a kitchen scale or post a picture of them?

-Kathy

 

[Icedangel11]

After his feeding I wiped him off with a warm damp rag. His feathers were a bit sticky from the sugar water. He then got blow dried off. I was going to keep him inside for the night with a sister but he wont stop peeping. I think it's really distressing for him, so I might put him back.




This is the dry food mash. It's about 1 shot glass of water and half a shotglass of feed.

 

[Icedangel11]

Another couple feedings down. He's begun to expect me to open his mouth everytime I hold his head. He's got a lot more fight in him and it makes me happy.

So I thought I should take a moment to tell you about my brooder. It's really not standard.

I've converted a wood flood shed into my brooder room. It's well insulated and stays from 80-90 degrees inside. Most often sitting around 85 degrees. It's got boxes and 2x4s as well as wooden slates laid at an angle. You can sort've see in the back. It's also got a ladder. These give the chicks LOTS of things to play with. They climb and jump around and roost on the edges. They've chosen one corner to sleep in at night and then they travel to their food/water. It's not HUGE but it's a good 10x20 room. They mostly poop in their sleeping corner where they roost. Because of this their food only gets the very rare poop in it.

Every two days I sweep eeevverrryything out and clean it up. If it's a dry, hot, day I scrub it with hot soapy water and rinse with boiling water (while the chicks are in a different cage, I promise!) and then fan dry the wood. It looks messy but I promise I do keep a clean brooder. The chicks like scratching their food out of the dish (even with the 'bar' thing on) and then pecking it off the ground. To me it simulates the foraging behaviors they'll be using outside, so I let them do it.

Throwing food on the ground is actually how I taught my first group to forage while free ranging. And if I spot some place that has a few too many bugs crawling around I just toss a handful of feed and away they go!

 

[Mamabrinkles]

Glad to hear he is still fighting. When my little girl was sick I would use an eye dropper to put a drop of water right on the tip of her beak and she would drink it everytime.

 

[Icedangel11]

Yep, he's still up and kicking. His protests to having his beak opened have now included wiggling and trying to kick me off. sometimes to the point where it's hard to keep hold of him and he slips away.

To me that's GREAT because he actually has the energy to fuss!

I think I'll feed him one more time before going to bed. Tomorrow I'm going to get EXACT measurements of how much food and water he's getting. Though his poops remain normal with a good amount of white cap on them. He's starting to plod around me and even tried to escape me when I went to pick up up! Oh I dream the day when he's far too fast for me to catch.

 

[Icedangel11]

And last feeding of the night! Leaving him with a nice full belly. He ate quite a bit today.

Every bite I give him I just imagine getting shoved down the throats of the cocci. Oh whats that little guys? You want a nice snack? HOW ABOUT SOME STARVATION INSTEAD?!

Edit: Also it's 2 am and I'm TIRED.

 

[Icedangel11]

I did some more research on Dinovite for chickens by researching ingredients one by one.

Montmorillonite has been used to control cocci in hicks, Aspergillus Niger and Oryzae has been tested for weight gain in broilers (it wasn't effective), Lactobacillus is literally why we ferment feed.

So far I've found; Salmonella control, Cocci control, and tons of vitamins and nutrients.

Dinovite

Original Canine
Ground flax seed, dried kelp, yeast culture, ground grain sorghum, fructooligosaccharide, zinc methionine complex, diatomaceous earth, montmorillonite clay, yucca schidigera extract, dehydrated alfalfa meal, Aspergillus oryzae fermentation product dehydrated,Aspergillus niger fermentation product dehydrated, Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product dehydrated, Lactobacillus casei fermentation product dehydrated, Bifidobacterium thermophilum fermentation product dehydrated, Enterococcus faecium fermentation product dehydrated.
Guaranteed Analysis
Crude Protein ... Minimum ...10%
Crude Fat ... Minimum ...10%
Crude Fiber ...Maximum ...17%
Moisture...Maximum ...12%
Zinc...Minimum ...2 mg/gm
*Omega 3 Fatty Acids ...Minimum ...6%
*Lactic Acid Microrganisms ...Minimum ...1.0x106CFU/gm
(L. acidophilus, L. casei, B. thermophilum and E. faecium)
Enzyme Activity per 8 gm (1 tbsp.) of supplement
*Amylase (A. oryzae)................. 152 mg starch dextrinized/min/gm
*Protease (A. oryzae) ................ 640 mcg of tyrosine equivalence liberated/min/gm
*Lipase (A. niger) 40 micromoles fatty acids liberated/min/gm

hm..

 

[Icedangel11]

Ground flax seed, (Used as a chicken supplement here )
dried kelp, (Used as a chicken treat here )
yeast culture, (Found to be useful in the growth of broiler chickens here )
ground grain sorghum, (Used in poultry feed here )
fructooligosaccharide, (Tested as a way to reduce susceptibility to Salmonella here )
zinc methionine complex (Used in a supplement to help eggshell quality here )
, diatomaceous earth, ... Is DE.
montmorillonite clay, (Used in testing as protection against aflatoxicosis here )
yucca schidigera extract, (Used in testing against Cocci and found beneficial for gains when used with a vaccine here )
dehydrated alfalfa meal, (Used in chicken feed, also in rabbit feed which is harmless for chickens to eat )
Aspergillus oryzae fermentation product dehydrated, (Found in organic chicken feed here )
Aspergillus niger fermentation product dehydrated, (Has been tested in chicken feed, showed no real benefits but no harm here )
Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product dehydrated, (Found in Poultry Provita Here )
Lactobacillus casei fermentation product dehydrated, (Found in Poultry Provita Here )
Bifidobacterium thermophilum fermentation product dehydrated, ( Found in Chicken wormer; here )
Enterococcus faecium fermentation product dehydrated. (Found in organic chicken feed here )


Sooo.. What do you think? Good or bad for the chickies? Could it be used as a source of vitamins after the medicated feed?

 

[bumpercarr]

Ground flax seed, (Used as a chicken supplement here )
dried kelp, (Used as a chicken treat here )
yeast culture, (Found to be useful in the growth of broiler chickens here )
ground grain sorghum, (Used in poultry feed here )
fructooligosaccharide, (Tested as a way to reduce susceptibility to Salmonella here )
zinc methionine complex (Used in a supplement to help eggshell quality here )
, diatomaceous earth, ... Is DE.
montmorillonite clay, (Used in testing as protection against aflatoxicosis here )
yucca schidigera extract, (Used in testing against Cocci and found beneficial for gains when used with a vaccine here )
dehydrated alfalfa meal, (Used in chicken feed, also in rabbit feed which is harmless for chickens to eat )
Aspergillus oryzae fermentation product dehydrated, (Found in organic chicken feed here )
Aspergillus niger fermentation product dehydrated, (Has been tested in chicken feed, showed no real benefits but no harm here )
Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product dehydrated, (Found in Poultry Provita Here )
Lactobacillus casei fermentation product dehydrated, (Found in Poultry Provita Here )
Bifidobacterium thermophilum fermentation product dehydrated, ( Found in Chicken wormer; here )
Enterococcus faecium fermentation product dehydrated. (Found in organic chicken feed here )


Sooo.. What do you think? Good or bad for the chickies? Could it be used as a source of vitamins after the medicated feed?

Sounds like it could be used. I'm always hesitant to use anything that the big boys use on their broilers, that is just a personal preference of my own.