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[Pork Pie]

I agree. I hope my latest post got that point across.

Me too, but some people seem so determined it's shocking. Learning and listening to advice is surely vital when one knows squat!

 

[Pork Pie]

It's all starting to make sense now.  

DW never suffers from tonsillitis

 

[Debs Flock]

DW never suffers from tonsillitis

You're that lucky??

 

[Pork Pie]

You're that lucky??

She is

- amazing what an occasional tickle can do

 

[Tumbling K]

Twin observations:

It looks like small twin was shutting down a day or so ago. Once that starts, the toxins from decomposition quickly migrate through the warm, moist egg environment, typically killing the surviving sibling.

Each embryo was completely and perfectly formed and feathered, but had not started drawing in yolk. Developmentally they were day 22-23, on the calendar day 28 with all eggs in the same set hatching on time.

Each embryo had a distinct yolk sac, separate vascular systems, and each was encapsulated in its own inner membrane. In addition, there was fluid between each inner sac and the inner shell membrane.

Typically the vascular systems are strongly tied to the air cell for gas exchange. In this case, the air cell was almost non-existent and there was very few blood vessels to the air cell. Those that were there were attached only to the larger poult's sac.

sounds like they were pretty close tho.


Deb, I thought tonsillitis only affected the back of the throat?

a person can learn so much on this thread......

 

[Pork Pie]

Deb, I thought tonsillitis only affected the back of the throat?

a person can learn so much on this thread......

its all about the approach

 

[WVduckchick]

Twin observations:

It looks like small twin was shutting down a day or so ago. Once that starts, the toxins from decomposition quickly migrate through the warm, moist egg environment, typically killing the surviving sibling.

Each embryo was completely and perfectly formed and feathered, but had not started drawing in yolk. Developmentally they were day 22-23, on the calendar day 28 with all eggs in the same set hatching on time.

Each embryo had a distinct yolk sac, separate vascular systems, and each was encapsulated in its own inner membrane. In addition, there was fluid between each inner sac and the inner shell membrane.

Typically the vascular systems are strongly tied to the air cell for gas exchange. In this case, the air cell was almost non-existent and there was very few blood vessels to the air cell. Those that were there were attached only to the larger poult's sac.

Although they didn't make it, at least it was educational!

@casportpony will want to see this!

She is

- amazing what an occasional tickle can do

more than occasional is even better!

 

[WalnutHill]

Although they didn't make it, at least it was educational!

@casportpony will want to see this!

Other than the shell size constraints, I think the limited air surface was a major challenge. If I do set another twin egg, I will scuff the air cell end to improve evaporation and will incubate at 101.5F to increase rate of development while keeping down size.

On a good note, I had either an Oregon Gray or Dark Gray hatch!

 

[Debs Flock]

She is

- amazing what an occasional tickle can do

I believe you are the lucky one, sir.

sounds like they were pretty close tho.


Deb, I thought tonsillitis only affected the back of the throat?

a person can learn so much on this thread......

I think Chris' DW must have her tonsils on her hand!

its all about the approach

I'd say depends on the load.

Although they didn't make it, at least it was educational!

@casportpony will want to see this!


more than occasional is even better!

 

[Pork Pie]

more than occasional is even better! 

cant spoil her!

Where's our Mini today? Hope she's not been eaten by that rottie!