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[perchie.girl]

Don't know about the lye, but the first nation people ground acorns, too

you get a bit of lye when you mix ashes with water... They used to Dry them then soak them in water to get the Tanins out. Changing the water several times till it ran clear.

Same process can be used for curing olives....

When we moved here we had an olive tree that was loaded with olives every year... Dad had me help him and we stripped that tree of everything and filled an eighty gallon Trash can with olives. Just one tree.... SMH Of course we removed leaves and bits and the occasional iffy olive...

Then we washed everything with a big two by four as a stirrer... about four times Once drained it went on the back porch... in the shade. Dad shooed us all out while he mixed the draino. No additives. and pourd it in to the now filled with water container. I think he used a half a contaienr for eighty gallons. A couple of linin towls went over the container and the lid went back on.

once a week he would snag an olive out and slice the meat off down to the pit. You could see where the olive was being cured by the lye. It took about three weeks.... Then he dumped the container of water and Refilled it with water and a gallon of Vinegar... Lye is a base Vinegar is an acid.... Together they nutralized each other.

Another two weeks and he drained them again and tasted. Oooh they were good. He packed them in glass jars some with Vinegar and garlic some with peppers and most of them plain. Eighty gallons of olives didnt last a year.

deb

 

[Shadrach]

you get a bit of lye when you mix ashes with water... They used to Dry them then soak them in water to get the Tanins out. Changing the water several times till it ran clear.

Same process can be used for curing olives....

When we moved here we had an olive tree that was loaded with olives every year... Dad had me help him and we stripped that tree of everything and filled an eighty gallon Trash can with olives. Just one tree.... SMH Of course we removed leaves and bits and the occasional iffy olive...

Then we washed everything with a big two by four as a stirrer... about four times Once drained it went on the back porch... in the shade. Dad shooed us all out while he mixed the draino. No additives. and pourd it in to the now filled with water container. I think he used a half a contaienr for eighty gallons. A couple of linin towls went over the container and the lid went back on.

once a week he would snag an olive out and slice the meat off down to the pit. You could see where the olive was being cured by the lye. It took about three weeks.... Then he dumped the container of water and Refilled it with water and a gallon of Vinegar... Lye is a base Vinegar is an acid.... Together they nutralized each other.

Another two weeks and he drained them again and tasted. Oooh they were good. He packed them in glass jars some with Vinegar and garlic some with peppers and most of them plain. Eighty gallons of olives didnt last a year.

deb

They used to produce olive oil here. I don't know exactly what happened but over the years the trees got neglected and most hardly produce any olives now.
I cleared and pruned 4 of the 60 something olive trees here a few years ago and they are slowly recovering.
It's like many places here. It used to be productive land and now most of what's produced is hot air through talking.

 

[Shadrach]

I try to keep up with the 'science' papers released about chicken behavior given I'm very interested in the subject.
Some of you may find this interesting. What's a bit different is the author has linked to the references.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10071-016-1064-4

 

[perchie.girl]

They used to produce olive oil here. I don't know exactly what happened but over the years the trees got neglected and most hardly produce any olives now.
I cleared and pruned 4 of the 60 something olive trees here a few years ago and they are slowly recovering.
It's like many places here. It used to be productive land and now most of what's produced is hot air through talking.

probably your best bet is to get a college involved.... Agricultural preservation... I betcha some of those species of trees were closer to wild origins especially if they are a hundred years or more of age.... of course you know trees die... eventually. But cuttings can bring new life... to an old stock. Grafted to a younger heartier Root base...

Here we have grape vinyards left to die... In San Bernardo area... Some of those root stalks are more than a hundred years old.... Brought over from Europe. Those vine cores or bases are a good foot and a half in diameter... Struggling to survive on what the desert gives them for water. The DNA alone would be well worth preserving.

Some of our original vinyard stock were used to recover Blight infested Vinyards in Europe a few years back.

My grandpa was a share cropper He and his family worked the lower United states.... Starting in Florida. Making their way to Texas, then Arizona, Then finally California... They farmed everything from Cotton To pigs... But Grandpa Dixon was truely gifted in setting up berry farms. So when they settled in Colton California they had small orange grove... they grew what they needed for themselves and He hired out to set up farms around the area.

Here in San Diego Olive groves were big, So were lemon groves. But the biggest cash crop was and still is Avocados. Surprisingly Avocados and citrus often times are grown together...

deb

 

[BYC910]

Yep! And coffee cup sets at Shell gas stations?

And the little cups and bowls in Quaker Oats A whole set is a collectors item now .

 

[perchie.girl]

I try to keep up with the 'science' papers released about chicken behavior given I'm very interested in the subject.
Some of you may find this interesting. What's a bit different is the author has linked to the references.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10071-016-1064-4

Very interesting.... You might also paruse some of resolutions papers written right here... He is an Avian Scientist... and a very interesting read
Not active any more but some of his followers are.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/search/45310064/

He has some very intereisting concepts to housing and socialization as wwll as historical information

 

[Shadrach]

probably your best bet is to get a college involved.... Agricultural preservation... I betcha some of those species of trees were closer to wild origins especially if they are a hundred years or more of age.... of course you know trees die... eventually. But cuttings can bring new life... to an old stock. Grafted to a younger heartier Root base...

Here we have grape vinyards left to die... In San Bernardo area... Some of those root stalks are more than a hundred years old.... Brought over from Europe. Those vine cores or bases are a good foot and a half in diameter... Struggling to survive on what the desert gives them for water. The DNA alone would be well worth preserving.

Some of our original vinyard stock were used to recover Blight infested Vinyards in Europe a few years back.

My grandpa was a share cropper He and his family worked the lower United states.... Starting in Florida. Making their way to Texas, then Arizona, Then finally California... They farmed everything from Cotton To pigs... But Grandpa Dixon was truely gifted in setting up berry farms. So when they settled in Colton California they had small orange grove... they grew what they needed for themselves and He hired out to set up farms around the area.

Here in San Diego Olive groves were big, So were lemon groves. But the biggest cash crop was and still is Avocados. Surprisingly Avocados and citrus often times are grown together...

deb

They had grapes here after the olive trees. Grape blight got them and pretty much ruined all the vines. There are two very productive vines climbing the front walls of the main house.
What is more interesting is there is what I have been told is an 'original' vine alive on the edge of the vegetable garden. I've put supports under this one and it produces fruit each year but the grapes taste noticably different to those on the other two vines.

 

[Shadrach]

Very interesting.... You might also paruse some of resolutions papers written right here... He is an Avian Scientist... and a very interesting read
Not active any more but some of his followers are.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/search/45310064/

He has some very intereisting concepts to housing and socialization as wwll as historical information

The link doesn't work for me.

 

[BYC910]

Oh 5 is cold..... Just not REAL cold

Well I guess if your an Eskimo ,that's a heat wave

 

[BYC910]

Good morning Pond I'm trying to read a great big novel of missed post A losing battle . Put my cloths on feed goats . Feed goats take off my cloths . I'm a slave Anybody need a turkey ?I would say I'd sell them at cost . Nobody gonna pay that, so I'll sell them at what I paid for them Guess I'll feed goats