Well, he's toast now

[Folly's place]

Calm! Different management styles at play here.
Small space flocks and different expectations, not the same as expansive flock spaces and different goals. Not to mention different liability issues if people are injured.
Shadrack has vast experience with his flocks, and lots to offer on this site. Many of us have different situations, and also the semantics of it all can be misinterpreted.
Mary

 

[DParker75089]

Shadrack has vast experience with his flocks, and lots to offer on this site.

Neither of which are excuses for stupid comments like the one he made above, the meaning of which was quite clear.

 

[TropicalBabies]

Wow. I find it -not so- funny that big fat humans get all sideways when a rooster gets the best of them. I also find it pretty disgusting that people brag about taking the life of something that is just doing what it thought best (with its little brain ). OP obviously has some conflict as they/you posted about and complained about your incident. It is just a discussion but I would absolutely trust @Shadrach with the care of my flock. He is a wise and caring person with lots of experience, commonsense and compassion. Maybe you are just having a bad day?

I personally have never had this problem and have raised countless roosters and even pride myself on selling sweet capable boys- and have never had a complaint.
After reading half of this post I had to go out to square away my main flock after our big rains last eve. Spider, my main guy- a great grand roo- and I work as a team. I count on him to keep my girls safe and cared for. Just last week he sounded b4 a lose dog crashed through the forest and into the middle of his/mine/our flock 12 feet away from me. I was able to react in time because of him and WE quickly escorted OUR girls back to the run.
If I challenge my boys they are going to treat me as a challenge. If I care and respect my boys, I seem to get back what I give.
Enjoy your meal, I hope your wounds heal soon.

 

[ChickiePickie]

I agree, this nasty bird has earned his reward! When I got chicks 2 years ago I was determined that my rooster would not be mean. From the time he was tiny, everytime I went in the coop I would pick him up, carry him around & talk to him the whole time I was in the coop. Now he eyes everyone else with suspicion & has occasionally tried to attack my grown daughters (who look just like me) but he has never bothered me! This might not work with all rosters but it's worth a try.

 

[DParker75089]

Wow. I find it -not so- funny that big fat humans get all sideways when a rooster gets the best of them.

That's every bit as obnoxiously ignorant as what you're defending. Congratulations...?

 

[TropicalBabies]

That's every bit as obnoxiously ignorant as what you're defending. Congratulations...?

On boo hoo!

 

[3KillerBs]

Personally,

I am not the boss.

Because I am not part of the pecking order at all.

I am The Giant Who Brings Food.

I expect my chickens, male and female, to understand that I am outside their society the same as if I were a horse or a cow or some other such force of nature. In nature a cockerel or rooster who attacked harmless large animals unprovoked would die of his stupidity. Same in my flock.

I have not yet had a bad rooster -- which I'm sure is as much luck as management. But I had a bad cockerel in the sense that he harassed hens and pecked at chicks despite being disciplined by the senior and junior flockmasters (who allowed a different cockerel to mate some of the hens -- because he was behaving properly, I presume).

Interestingly, Captain, the bad cockerel, was the grandson of a bad rooster who attacked people.

I will probably have a human-aggressive male at some point. I'm not afraid to eat him.

Why should I mess around with a jerk when there are so many good cockerels and roosters being eaten just because their owners have too many?

 

[SourRoses]

The Boss.
My view is, if you want to be the boss then you need to be able to do what the boss does.
Can you fertilize the eggs of all the hens each day?

That's not some solemn duty, it's a reward

Will you be there every day and every night?

I'm here, a few hundred feet away, with a window overlooking the chicken yard.

Will you escort the hens to and from their nesting and egg-laying sites?

Better, I built those nesting sites. I lined them with comfy straw. I clean them when they're messy.

What about giving them the best bits of your dinner?

Better, I give them all of their dinner. And breakfast, and lunch, and snacks. Including the best bits.

Can you get the hens to follow you?

Of course, it's called dinner. And scratch. And bugs.
Some hot afternoons, it's even the cold water I make magically appear in the water bucket. Can a rooster do that?

Are you prepared to die for them?

Nope. But my halfhearted fighting of predators is many times more effective than his best day version.

Of course, you won’t get bored and wander off when they have a long dust bath.

In sand I provided.
I don't think they care who's around when they bathe, at least mine don't.

Are you going to dig for treats and give them to the hens?

Better, I go to the store many miles away, fight off shortage-crazed humans for the best bags, spend my money that could have gone to treats for me, and haul away hundreds of pounds of chicken sustenance. I then lug those 50 lb. bags on my shoulder, one at a time, from my driveway to the chicken land - a long trek.
Can a rooster do that?

How about breaking up their fights?

Of course. I also possess the means to separate any bullies by putting them in jail.
Can a rooster do that?

Can you see that hawk in the trees?
What about that weasel over there in the bushes?

Of course, I have eyes. When the hens make an alert, I come to have a look. You know, with my eyeballs. Which I have.
Usually, my presence alone is enough to scare off predators.
I can also do things a rooster would never think of, like checking track marks in the dirt to identify a predator, and checking for digging holes around their house.

Can you get the hens to accept you as the boss?

I believe they do, by virtue of parting crowds when I walk and looking up at me for food. If there's anything more to being in charge I will delegate it to my minion, the rooster. Sometimes to my dog, when I think some urine might be useful on the fences. I'm not going to be performing that lowly chore either, because human.

 

[TropicalBabies]

That's not some solemn duty, it's a reward



I'm here, a few hundred feet away, with a window overlooking the chicken yard.



Better, I built those nesting sites. I lined them with comfy straw. I clean them when they're messy.



Better, I give them all of their dinner. And breakfast, and lunch, and snacks. Including the best bits.



Of course, it's called dinner. And scratch. And bugs.
Some hot afternoons, it's even the cold water I make magically appear in the water bucket. Can a rooster do that?



Nope. But my halfhearted fighting of predators is many times more effective than his best day version.



In sand I provided.
I don't think they care who's around when they bathe, at least mine don't.



Better, I go to the store many miles away, fight off shortage-crazed humans for the best bags, spend my money that could have gone to treats for me, and haul away hundreds of pounds of chicken sustenance. I then lug those 50 lb. bags on my shoulder, one at a time, from my driveway to the chicken land - a long trek.
Can a rooster do that?



Of course. I also possess the means to separate any bullies by putting them in jail.
Can a rooster do that?



Of course, I have eyes. When the hens make an alert, I come to have a look. You know, with my eyeballs. Which I have.
Usually, my presence alone is enough to scare off predators.
I can also do things a rooster would never think of, like checking track marks in the dirt to identify a predator, and checking for digging holes around their house.



I believe they do, by virtue of parting crowds when I walk and looking up at me for food. If there's anything more to being in charge I will delegate it to my minion, the rooster. Sometimes to my dog, when I think some urine might be useful on the fences. I'm not going to be performing that lowly chore either, because human.

See, now this is where we differ. I consider it a privilege to do all of that or I would not keep chickens. My reward is eggs. Eggs to eat, eggs to sell, eggs to hatch and sell... or just add a new flock member. Being of service is its own great reward, therapeutic if you will. My ego is fed by doing a good job of it and that is enough. I don't have to take out my rage on a small creatue.... and then brag about it. Seems... a bit sick to me. But hey, to each is own. OP was told how to discontue thread but chose to keep it for the discussion-or trolling, not sure yet. It is easy to criticize and bully when you are safely in your angry bubble but I do not believe that is the point of BYC. I think we should try to put our egos and differences aside and try and learn. But again, that is just me.

On a side note, I don't try and dominate my horses, that would be foolish. I work with them, try to use their language and practice. I use this same technique with all of my creatures. I am happiest when I don't think I am god.

 

[DParker75089]

That's not some solemn duty, it's a reward

Shhhhhh....my wife might be reading this.