I'm hugely glad I found this thread! I am fairly confident now that my two welsummers are in fact girls! I am suspecting one of my rir's is a rooster because of slower feathering than his sister. And we don't have room for two roos and I really didn't want to put one in the freezer. I know it is still early on for us (about two weeks old) but the v was there on their heads, lined in a thin black. And they have definite Cleopatra eyes going on...