What are safe temps for a bator with no fan?

Discussion in 'Incubating & Hatching Eggs' started by emvickrey, May 6, 2009.

  1. emvickrey

    emvickrey ChowDown Silkie Farm

    Mar 5, 2009
    Hornbeak, Tennessee
    I have some eggs coming in the mail that I want to really work. (like who doesn't) But I ahve had really bad hatches. I have my bator located in the hall way where the room temp stays relatively the same. When it rains it seems to make the bator temp spike for some reason. My last batch I closed the vent holes and that seemed to keep the temp regular then it spiked to 104 twice. I figured they where ruined and gave up.
    I also used a styro egg carton for the eggs and to turn them I propped them on the lid of the carton and usedmy hands to make sure they where leaning as much as they oculd in the cartons.

    this time my plans are: I removed the plugs from the vents and put a fan on low near the bator. It isn't on the bator but in the hall about 2 feet away to help circulate air in that area. I will use the carton again but instead of propping it I will use something to prop up the bator on each side. That way I don't have to open it. I can see the temp/hydrometr with a flashlight through the window. I also plan to leave in the carton for hatching. I'm hoing that the temps don't spike.

    What I need to now is what is a safe temp for a bator with no fan inside. I believe I kept too low a tem last time. All eggs where firtile but 1 and 2 of them qhit early. The rest died in the egg. Never pipped. I dropped one on top of another one and it cracked. It hatched 2 days early and is still doing well except it's growth is very slow. Most of the chicks that died near the end had broken yolks. When I broke into them the yolk ran out. I got the humidity up to 62% on the last few days and then I lowered it and gave them 5 more days to hatch. But nothing but the 1 early bird.

    I am getting some turkey eggs. Do they have to be done different than the chicken eggs? I really need to now wht to do here becuse I have no turkeys and really want at lwast 1 pair. I'm getting 4 or 5 eggs. Won't know untl I get them. I won one of the contests and it includes turkey eggs.

    I can use all the help I can get. When I decided to get into hatching I did a bunch of research and was told to maintain a temp of 99.5 degrees with 50% humidity. I have been told success stories of different temps and humidity. I don't know if it makes a difference but I live in the extreme north west Tennessee and it has been raining for over a week now. WE have had a few dry days but we have more rain coming. Hopefully it will stop by the time I get my eggs.

    All advice is welcome.
  2. AHappychick

    AHappychick Wanna-be Farmer

    Dec 16, 2008
    I think it is 101 on the top of the eggs
  3. DukeDawg528

    DukeDawg528 Chillin' With My Peeps

    Feb 11, 2009
    SouthEastern Kentucky
    I have pertty good hatch rates out of 99.5 degrees F. ... [​IMG]
  4. Ruditchka

    Ruditchka Chillin' With My Peeps

    Mar 28, 2009
    "They" say 102 temp in still air measured at top of eggs....., but I agree that around 101 is a safer bet due to incubator temp flucuations and less the chance of having a detrimental spike! Good Luck!!!
  5. emvickrey

    emvickrey ChowDown Silkie Farm

    Mar 5, 2009
    Hornbeak, Tennessee
    The eggs arrived today and the bator was at 101.2 degrees and 37% humidity. I used 2 dried sponges to lean the bater on.

    I ws going to use a straw to put water in but I remembered I had asyringe for inserting spices into meat. Can't think of the name of it right now but it works great. So I will use that. I just need to get the charts started and we are on our way. Got fingers crossed. I got an assortment that i want all of them to hatch.
  6. pips&peeps

    pips&peeps There is no "I" in Ameraucana

    Jan 18, 2008
    Newman Lake, WA
    Still air incubator should be 102. You probably are having bad hatches because the temperature is not high enough.
  7. sonew123

    sonew123 Poultry Snuggie

    Mar 16, 2009
    onchiota NY
    I have a still air and I've noticed that it runs best at 101.1-if I fudge with it to stay at 102-it spikes everytime-so I will deal with it being behind by a day or so on the hatch if it means no spikes occur?
  8. DANNY

    DANNY Chillin' With My Peeps

    Mar 27, 2009
    I think you are right . Your temperature is low. As far as temp spikes go i woudn't worry about it as long as it don't go over 105 and comes back down by itself. Contrary to what you hear an egg will hatch in 18 days if the temperature is high enough. I am not recomending this i am just telling you to let you know a temp spike is not lethal to a point. Running your incubator on a high temperature is better than low. I have learned over the years to start mine high and if they hatch early back it down a little after batch. There are so many variables it will drive you crazy if you let it. Like inaccurate thermometers where are you measuring the temperature at. If it were me i would set it on 103 and leave it alone and see how the next hatch goes. Right now my 3 gqfs are sitting on 102.4 according to my $50 thermo/hygro's. Last week i hatched 67 out of 74 fertile eggs which is about 40% more than i hatched before i started making adjusments. Remember the eggs will always tell you whats going on. They should be hatched and ready for the brooder at the end of 21 days.
  9. ChickieKeeta

    ChickieKeeta C'mon C'mere Fluffa Feathers

    Feb 16, 2009
    Cumberland County NJ
    Good luck with your hatch. I used a still air LG incubator for my first
    hatch. My temps ran 89 to 108. 8 of 9 eggs hatched. The temp
    fluctuations are not ideal, but they hatched. 21 days seems long
    when we anxiously await a hatch. If the temps spike or drop there is nothing to lose by waiting it out to see what may happen. I figured I would always wonder,"what if..." So I let the 3 weeks play out & got an 89% hatch.

    I am now on my second incubation. Same LG still air. This time it is in my small bathroom. Room air temp is steady & no drafts. I ran it 36 hours before starting the eggs. The temp has been a steady 101. The thermometer does not show 101 point what. Still air should be 101.5 to 102.0. The eggs are in a carton pointy side down. I turn them 3 times a day. After I put the eggs in, it took several hours to get back to 101.?. But I did not adjust it. I learned the 1st time to leave it alone.
  10. Hens_And_Chicks

    Hens_And_Chicks Chillin' With My Peeps

    Feb 23, 2009
    I have a batch of eggs in a LG9200 Still Air and the temp is at 102 - it spiked yesterday afternoon to 106 - it's in a school classroom so I was panicked - hoping I caught it in time and no harm was done.

    This morning it was at 100, 99 and 102 on the three thermometers - the one that came with the LG, a digital and a Pampered Chef meat thermometer.

    We candle on Friday so [​IMG] Tomorrow is day 10 but the teacher is not there tomorrow and we are making it part of her class lesson for social studies on Friday [​IMG]

    There are 39 eggs in the bator - the only thing that worries me is that the eggs were so evenly round on both ends, I am not sure I guessed correctly to get them right end up.

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