What are these? Roo or hen and what breed?

[FTHOBBY]

I got these two and were told they were Orpington’s. But I am not sure. They are both crowing now too. I thought the one with the standing comb was a rooster because it’s been crowing for weeks. The other one just started crowing the last couple days. Any help or thoughts would be appreciated.

 

[sourland]

They are hatchery quality silver laced wyandotte cockerels.

 

[Painted Calls]

They are hatchery quality silver laced wyandotte cockerels.

Agreed.

 

[HappyClucker7]

They are hatchery quality silver laced wyandotte cockerels.

I agree.

 

[TheOddOneOut]

Mixed breed or low quality SLW cockerels.

 

[Disheygirl]

They are hatchery quality silver laced wyandotte cockerels.

I’ve seen comments about hatchery quality v good quality comments on the site. Just curious - what is the biggest difference? I assume their feather coloring? There are so many chicken breeds out there...it’s impressive! I used to show Weimaraners and can spot a backyard breeder quality from show instantly, but it’s because I can see their structure. Chickens just look like a pile of floofy-floof to me.

 

[Painted Calls]

I’ve seen comments about hatchery quality v good quality comments on the site. Just curious - what is the biggest difference? I assume their feather coloring? There are so many chicken breeds out there...it’s impressive! I used to show Weimaraners and can spot a backyard breeder quality from show instantly, but it’s because I can see their structure. Chickens just look like a pile of floofy-floof to me.

SLW should have rose combs. The one here has a single comb. A Wyandotte bred to SOP or even close, would have a rose comb, cleaner lacing, a bit different conformation etc.

We use the term "Hatchery quality" to describe a purebred bird that has a few faults or just isn't quite what the breed should look like. The reason for that term is that hatcheries (y'all know which ones are in my head right now lol) breed for quantity over quality. Therefore a lot of desirable breed traits get lost in those hatchery birds.

 

[HappyClucker7]

I’ve seen comments about hatchery quality v good quality comments on the site. Just curious - what is the biggest difference? I assume their feather coloring? There are so many chicken breeds out there...it’s impressive! I used to show Weimaraners and can spot a backyard breeder quality from show instantly, but it’s because I can see their structure. Chickens just look like a pile of floofy-floof to me.

You can tell a bird is hatchery quality by the feathers, body shape, sometimes they have wrong combs, etc. For example, these birds are SLW, which should have a lot more of the actual silver coloring.
This is what a better quality SLW looks like (not my picture).

Do you see how much more defined the lacing is? The boys in the photos are mostly just black.
One also has a single comb, instead of the rose comb which the breed is supposed to have.

 

[cherrynberry]

SLW should have rose combs. The one here has a single comb. A Wyandotte bred to SOP or even close, would have a rose comb, cleaner lacing, a bit different conformation etc.

We use the term "Hatchery quality" to describe a purebred bird that has a few faults or just isn't quite what the breed should look like. The reason for that term is that hatcheries (y'all know which ones are in my head right now lol) breed for quantity over quality. Therefore a lot of desirable breed traits get lost in those hatchery birds.

You can tell a bird is hatchery quality by the feathers, body shape, sometimes they have wrong combs, etc. For example, these birds are SLW, which should have a lot more of the actual silver coloring.
This is what a better quality SLW looks like (not my picture).
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Do you see how much more defined the lacing is? The boys in the photos are mostly just black.
One also has a single comb, instead of the rose comb which the breed is supposed to have.

Couldnt have said that better. And yes, we know the hatchery you are thinking of.

 

[3KillerBs]

I’ve seen comments about hatchery quality v good quality comments on the site. Just curious - what is the biggest difference?

It has to do with how closely the birds approach the Standard of Perfection for the breed.

Hatcheries focus on production -- the ability of their birds to produce more birds. They don't focus on body shape, comb type, size, color patterns, or any such thing.

"Hatchery quality" doesn't mean unhealthy, just that it may only bear a passing resemblance to the breed it's supposed to be.