What breed

[Vanillaandbean]

I think I need better pics then, to see which predominates.

I hope these are good enough pictures.

 

[Chicken_Obsesser]

THAT CHICK IS UNREASONABLY ADORABLE LOL

 

[Amer]

I hope these are good enough pictures.

Okay, that's a cockerel

 

[NatJ]

Agreed. Specifically a black breasted red cockerel. I posted on the other thread as well and the people saying Speckled Sussex were highly inexperienced

Could it maybe be Spangled instead of Black Breasted Red?

Spangled Old English Game Bantams would have the same basic color pattern as Black Breasted Red, plus the mottling gene to make white dots. I think I see white tips on some of the feathers.

 

[Rhodebar Lover]

Could it maybe be Spangled instead of Black Breasted Red?

Spangled Old English Game Bantams would have the same basic color pattern as Black Breasted Red, plus the mottling gene to make white dots. I think I see white tips on some of the feathers.

I see what you mean. To my understanding and from the mottled chicks I’ve raised, their first feathering on the breast will have some all white feathers if they have two copies of the mottled gene. I have however seen wild type and black chicks feather out with some white on chest. I’ve heard some people say that one copy of the mottling gene can be visible in a similar look to this but I think the most logical answer is that he’s black breasted red. Here are some examples pictures I found.
Black breasted red cockerels:

Spangled cockerel:

 

[Vanillaandbean]

I see what you mean. To my understanding and from the mottled chicks I’ve raised, their first feathering on the breast will have some all white feathers if they have two copies of the mottled gene. I have however seen wild type and black chicks feather out with some white on chest. I’ve heard some people say that one copy of the mottling gene can be visible in a similar look to this but I think the most logical answer is that he’s black breasted red. Here are some examples pictures I found.
Black breasted red cockerels:
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Spangled cockerel:

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He definitely has less white then a spangled he only has little pieces of white and his head doesn’t have white on it I can show pictures of him older he is now crowing like crazy

 

[NatJ]

I see what you mean. To my understanding and from the mottled chicks I’ve raised, their first feathering on the breast will have some all white feathers if they have two copies of the mottled gene. I have however seen wild type and black chicks feather out with some white on chest. I’ve heard some people say that one copy of the mottling gene can be visible in a similar look to this but I think the most logical answer is that he’s black breasted red.

I have seen mottled birds that got the white breast feathers as you describe.

But I have also had some chicks with the mottling gene that first feathered out with no sign of it, then got little white dots in a later set of feathers, then more at the next molt-- and eventually ended up quite heavy mottling.

So I would say this is something that should become clear over the next few months, but I don't think we can be positive either way as of now.

Two photos of a cockerel that is a mix, including Mille Fleur Old English Game Bantam as the source of the mottling. First photo about 1 month old, 2nd photo about 5 months old:

 

[NatJ]

He definitely has less white then a spangled he only has little pieces of white and his head doesn’t have white on it I can show pictures of him older he is now crowing like crazy

For any chicken with the mottling gene, they get more white as they get older.

I would love to see more photos of him when he is older, regardless of what color he ends up being

 

[Rhodebar Lover]

I have seen mottled birds that got the white breast feathers as you describe.

But I have also had some chicks with the mottling gene that first feathered out with no sign of it, then got little white dots in a later set of feathers, then more at the next molt-- and eventually ended up quite heavy mottling.

So I would say this is something that should become clear over the next few months, but I don't think we can be positive either way as of now.

Two photos of a cockerel that is a mix, including Mille Fleur Old English Game Bantam as the source of the mottling. First photo about 1 month old, 2nd photo about 5 months old:

I’m looking into this. I honestly forgot how d’Uccles develop into the mottling. I found this thread mentioning that it has a different allelic mutation than Spangled OEGB and Speckled Sussex (both of which have the classic white bellies of their first feather set). I really doubt this bird will suddenly become mottled and the simplest possibility is he’s black breasted red.

 

[NatJ]

I really doubt this bird will suddenly become mottled and the simplest possibility is he’s black breasted red.

I'm looking forward to pictures in the future, after a few more chick molts, to see how this one turns out. Otherwise we can wonder forever