What did you do in the garden today?

[chickadoodles]

That doesn't sound right. A cutting is exactly identical to the original and should produce fruit identical to the original, that's how most fruit trees are grown these days, a cutting is either grafted onto a new rootstock or rooted, the rootstock should only control the size and rate of growth of the plant and shouldn't influence the fruit at all.

Dan from what I have read on grafting fruit trees is the actual variety of fruit tree is grafted onto a different root stock. And that the fruit may be close but not exact if grafted onto another root stock. Dan I may be totally off here but my internet is loading so slowly that I can't get the pages to load to search them. I will look again when my internet is running better.

 

[lazy gardener]

That doesn't sound right. A cutting is exactly identical to the original and should produce fruit identical to the original, that's how most fruit trees are grown these days, a cutting is either grafted onto a new rootstock or rooted, the rootstock should only control the size and rate of growth of the plant and shouldn't influence the fruit at all.

Agreed, in that the rooted cutting from the parent tree will be a clone and bear identical fruit to the parent as long as the cutting was taken from above the graft union. However, root stock can influence the grafted tree by controlling the size of the mature tree, and it may affect it's disease resistance, and also affect how well it does with a certain type of soil. I know that certain apple root stock is recommended when dealing with more clay/wet/less than ideal soils.

I have a seedling pear that failed a grafting attempt last spring. I had a friend attempt a cleft graft on it a few weeks ago. I will keep trying to graft that thing every year until it is successful, or until I kill the contrary little sucker! I have a seedling apple that I started last spring. It's putting on some size this season! And I planted a bunch of apple seeds in the garden last fall. There is one that has sprouted. More fodder for my experimentation.

 

[chickadoodles]

Agreed, in that the rooted cutting from the parent tree will be a clone and bear identical fruit to the parent as long as the cutting was taken from above the graft union. However, root stock can influence the grafted tree by controlling the size of the mature tree, and it may affect it's disease resistance, and also affect how well it does with a certain type of soil. I know that certain apple root stock is recommended when dealing with more clay/wet/less than ideal soils.

I have a seedling pear that failed a grafting attempt last spring. I had a friend attempt a cleft graft on it a few weeks ago. I will keep trying to graft that thing every year until it is successful, or until I kill the contrary little sucker! I have a seedling apple that I started last spring. It's putting on some size this season! And I planted a bunch of apple seeds in the garden last fall. There is one that has sprouted. More fodder for my experimentation.

Thank you lg. And Dan, I'm sorry you were right.
I am going to keep trying to get this peach that won't produce any peaches to give me plums. lol
We bought a red and golden delicious apple tree's and the golden is outdoing the red so much that I am giving the red more fertilizer this year. I am also thinking about grafting some of the red onto the golden. For what ever reason I am noticing that the trees at the back of the orchard are doing better than the ones in the front.

I wish you luck with your pear and apple trees lg.

 

[karenerwin]

Hi Karenerwin I keep trying to get some cuttings to root I have had some grow roots and then I lose them for one reason or another.
I was told that they will produce fruit but not like the original tree.
But I am going to attempt to make a few trees that will produce plums and peaches.
This peach tree has only produced small fruit a couple times but the squirrels eat them all.
I also grafted some of the plum cuttings onto this peach tree. And that gave me the cuttings to attempt this. Wish me luck.

I agree with dan26552, I don't see why the rooted peach tree wouldn't give you the same fruit as the original. I know when you have hybrid plants and grow another plant from those seeds, you will get something different, because it won't be the hybrid anymore. However, when you are creating a tree from a cutting, to me that is almost like cloning. You are using the exact tree, so you should get the exact same fruit.
Good luck at any rate! If you are successful, you can let us know how the fruit compares!
Edited to add: I see the other posts where you agreed with dan & lg

That doesn't sound right. A cutting is exactly identical to the original and should produce fruit identical to the original, that's how most fruit trees are grown these days, a cutting is either grafted onto a new rootstock or rooted, the rootstock should only control the size and rate of growth of the plant and shouldn't influence the fruit at all.

I agree with you.

 

[FridayYet]

Here is a video on giving tomatoes some shade to help keep them producing in the heat of summer.

Thanks for posting that. I'm experimenting with putting tomatoes in different places in the garden, and hoping to find out what does best where.

 

[chickadoodles]

Thanks for posting that. I'm experimenting with putting tomatoes in different places in the garden, and hoping to find out what does best where.

Your welcome.

I am thinking of trying to add some shade for a couple of my tomatoes to see if they will keep producing through the worst heat of summer.

 

[chickadoodles]

Yesterday my tomato plants were blooming like crazy and not one tomato!
Today after all the rain I have several tomatoes! no editing and just my cell phone.

 

[dan26552]

Yesterday my tomato plants were blooming like crazy and not one tomato!
Today after all the rain I have several tomatoes! no editing and just my cell phone.
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Sweet! I have like 300 tomatoes ranging from newly formed to almost ripe. I can't wait. AND almost no bugs so far I think I discovered something the army worms don't like. Marigolds.

 

[chickadoodles]

How wonderful Dan!

 

[dan26552]

Chicka, you getting a lot of rain? It's been raining here since Friday or Saturday.