What do you make of this situation?

chicken_china_mom

Crazy for Cochins
10 Years
Apr 24, 2009
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Tab, Indiana
Ok, let me begin by saying that I have some VERY strange neighbors, that said, let me tell you what is going on:
The problem seems to stem back to before I got chickens. We live in a tiny town in the middle of nowhere in Indiana, and the town is so tiny that it's only about 4 blocks long and 3 blocks wide. Only about 50 people live in town, and each property has a full acre of land so the neighbors aren't exactly on top of each other. I have living next door to me a lady in her 40's, single, with a little boy that is only a few months younger than my younger daughter, so I believe he will be 10 very soon. He's a lonely little boy because the mother doesn't allow him off his property to play. He was excited when we first moved in because kids were going to be living next door to him, but as soon as his mother saw that it was GIRLS living in the house, she had a billion excuses as to why her son couldn't play with my daughters. Later on we learned that she doesn't let him play with girls.
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Also I heard it through the grapevine that she was acting predjudiced toward my older daughter because she's darker complected, and apparently if you are darker complected, that makes you Mexican, and no one around here likes Mexicans.
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I'm Irish American and my children's father is Puerto Rican American, ok? My kids don't speak Spanish, and my older daughter looks so much like me it's scary. But she has dark hair, dark eyes, and gets a gorgeous tan in the summers, so therefore she's Mexican. Idiots. When asked what nationality she is, she smiles softly and says Irish, and then walks away leaving them scratch their heads. My daughter has a sarcastic streak that she also inherited from me. Anyway, so her son has stood on the edge of their property staring sadly at my kids playing for 2 years now, and has only gotten to play with my kids maybe 4 times, and only one of those times was when the mom was home. Ok, so last year I got chickens. No big deal, right? She even came over to grab one of her cats late last Fall and stopped to say that she had grown up on a farm and used to have chickens and ducks, and that she liked them a lot and if she had more property, she'd have some (has the same amount of land as me though,
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) Well, it was around the end of summer, beginning of fall when my birds, who had been pretty good about staying in my yard, noticed that she has nice shady pine trees at the back of her property. And so my little feathered brats would bolt for her trees and sit under them. Someone even laid an egg under one of the trees once! But I would shoo my birds back into my yard so they didn't bother her too much. I made the decision last summer that we needed some sort of fencing, but I didn't know then what kind I wanted to get, so with winter coming, we locked the birds up and limited their out time. Over the winter though I divided my flock, separating the standards and bantams. My standard rooster though makes a bee line for her porch the moment he's out, and takes all 9 of his ladies with him, and so I was always chasing them back onto my lawn. I didn't want them eating up all her cat food when she has so darn many cats and she doesn't feed them enough as it is. Well, this was a bad winter for me physically. I've been in so much pain with my feet (plantas fasciitis) that walking for any length of time is excrutiating, and so my kids took over management of the birds until I could get the pain under control. Well, being that they are kids, they had a bad habit of opening the door, letting the birds out, and then walking away. Course they'd run straight for the neighbor's porch. I'd apologize and make my kids bring the birds back and lock them up. And so finally we found a good, LARGE fencing, and we bought it last week. It arrived Wednesday, but it was raining, so we waited til the weather was nicer Friday morning, and we put it up. It's clearly visible from her yard, and when her mom arrived Friday afternoon to wait for the boy to get home from school (she babysits him every day), she got out of her car, stopped, looked at the fencing, and then continued on into the house. So I know she saw it. Later, my neighbor came home, stopped as she got out of her truck, looked at the fence, and then went into her house. So they saw it. I figured good, now it will help to keep things neutral between us. I felt like a bad neighbor up until that point. Now, that fence has been in place for 2 days now, and today my mom tells me she is hearing hammering out her bedroom window and tells me to go look out my window. So I do, and what do I see? I see my neighbor hammering signs up onto the old dilapidated barn that sits at the edge of her property and mine. One she hammered onto the side of the barn, facing my house so that no one will see it BUT us. It says PRIVATE PROPERTY. Ok, I get the picture. Then I looked at the front of the shed and there's a yellow sign that says NO TRESSPASSING-KEEP OUT. And so at this point I'm scratching my head and thinking to myself, if we were such a problem, why didn't she put these signs up last year when the birds first started running onto her lawn? My kids never step foot onto her property for any reason other than to retreive a bird. So, why wait until 2 days AFTER I put the fencing up to post her little signs? I am both amused at her ignorance, and irritated by it. I don't know how, or IF I should handle the situation. Now, she has dozens of cats that are all outdoor cats. Take a guess who they come begging food from, and where they poop. Yup, our yard. Not to mention that I made a big mistake last summer when one of her cats lunged at my younger daughter and bit her in the arm. My kid wasn't bothering the cat, but it still lunged at her. Nicked an artery too and my kid was spurting blood like Buckingham Fountain in downtown Chicago. Took forever before I got the bleeding to stop. My mistake was not saying something to her because I didn't want more problems than we already were having at the time. The cat came onto MY property and bit my daughter too. My daughter was not even anywhere near her yard. The cat is still around too, and looks like death warmed over. My daughter healed fine, but that's not the point. I find the signs offensive, though I'm not exactly sure why. If any of you were in my situation, how would you handle it? At the moment I'm awaiting the arrival of quite a few trees and bushes, and I'm thinking I have the perfect spot for one, right under my mother's bedroom window, in front of that PRIVATE PROPERTY sign. My first thought though was to post an equally large sign aimed directly at her house so she can see it plain as day that reads: All cats that come on my property will be deemed a threat and shot on sight! But I feel that I would be stooping to her level if I did that. And I don't have the heart to shoot any of her cats. Granted I don't like most of the little poop machines, I do like one little girl a lot, and I like when she comes over for food and belly rubs. That kitty is VERY pregnant right now (yeah, she NEVER spays or neuters her cats, so a lot of them are inbred), so we've been putting out extra food on our property for her where the weird neighbor can't see it. I don't know what to do. Any suggestions?

Here is a picture from inside the fence we put up. You can see my house straight ahead, and that's her house and shed to the left in the picture. I took this yesterday, before all this nonsense began:
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I bet you hurt her feelings! I bet she saw that fence, and thought, those mexicans don't like us. don't trust us... so Fine, I don't want them on my land either... neighbor stuff is super weird anyway, with normal neighbors, so with crazy, racist, cat breeding neighbors, I'd tread lightly. If I were you, and were not planning on moving soon, I'd bring her over something nice, cookies, a casserole (do people still make those?), a pie (I can't make a pie to save my life!), and say Gee, I've been feeling so bad about my chickens always running up on your back porch. We finally saved up enough money, and had the time to put up a fence, so I hope they don't keep pestering you now.

That should reassure her as to your fencing intentions, and then she'll either mellow out, or she's totally insane, and there is nothing you can do about it. good luck!
 
Honestly..dont worry about it at all... i would just smile at her like you didnt even notice the sign.. Try to keep peace with her as best you can.
Also, about the cats... you cant complain about them if you are feeding them?
You are asking for them to come on your property if you're feeding them. Not sure if you are feeding them..?
Also... if the cats keep bothering you...set have-a-hart traps for them and start bringing them to the shelter. Sounds like it would be the best thing for them if they are starving...
 
Most of the year her cats just lounge in the yard, usually hers, but sometimes in mine too. But come winter, she thinks one or two little cans of wet food are going to feed 12+ cats, and so the cats are rail thin, sick, and they go begging for food wherever they can. They aren't dumb either, and they know we have indoor cats, and so they come crying at my door begging for food. So we put up a bowl of food at the edge of the property, between her house and mine, so that the cats are still extremely close to her yard (like 2 feet over the property line, and nowhere near my door (my doors are on the opposite side of the house), and for the most part now, they don't come begging anymore. I have considered the traps. We end up with several kittens wandering into our yard each year that make it well onto my property, and then they lay down and die from severe respiratory infections (she doesn't take her cats to get vaccinated or get medical attention either). The problem with catching the cats and taking them to the shelter is that she just replaces them. One gets run over in the road? Next day she comes home with 3 more that she found wandering around. She comes home with some really sick ones, and that one last year that bit my daughter, he was one of her new additions last summer. She will have 3 new cats for every one that I could catch and take to a shelter. And if she saw the trap, all hell would break loose. I said she's weird. My kids and I were kind enough to return a few kittens that came into our yard last year and the year before when they saw us outside and wanted to be pet, and she would get all weird and snatch the kitten out of my kids hands (she was nicer with me though, she knew better), and tell them to just leave them alone. Um, it's in MY yard, staring at MY chickens like they're lunch, and I should do nothing? I don't think so! So I got in the habit of just shooing the cats back into her yard. I don't grab them anymore. She doesn't want us even petting one of her cats, even if it's rubbing against my leg and purring and begging for it, I'm suppose to ignore the cat completely. I don't understand her logic at all. I don't WANT to understand it. I just don't want anything to do with her. What's even stranger is that my mom just came in and told me that my neighbor is sitting in a chair in the yard watching my children. My kids are in my yard, not going anywhere near her yard, yet she's out there watching them. Why? So my mom is sitting in her room watching my neighbor. It's like some freaky soap opera. I'm just going to put up my trees along the property line so that she can't see my house or my yard. Then, if her cats DO come on my property, I can catch them and take them to a shelter. However I do have to drive some distance to find one, there is nothing in my county. Sometimes living in the country is not as nice as I would like.
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I'd make a point to talk to her very nicely and mention you set up the fence so that your chickens wont bother her anymore. Be very sweet about it, I bet that ticks her off. lol
 
I think you should talk to her about the signs she posted and just simply explain that you put the fence up so that the chickens wouldn't run over and poo all over her porch and everywhere else.

She may just feel offended ( some people are WAY too sensitive) and talking to her would help clear things up. It sounds like she's kinda snooty patooty anyway, but take the higher road....but I would definitely talk to her about the signs and that you feel that they are directed specifically towards you and that you don't understand why she would post those when you're clearly trying to keep your birds contained so as not to bother her or any of the other neighbors.
 
Good Lord. I don't think you really want to know my opinion, so I will leave it to myself. Seems like an awful lot of emotional energy and drama over nothing though. I am really going to chose to bite my tongue right now. Good luck to you.
 
I'd bring her over a dozen eggs, and while delivering them, mention something casually about FINALLY getting the fence up, so your chickens aren't always pestering her. You already felt bad about them being over there, so remember those feelings, and make a joke about it. Maybe something about how you'd been getting tired from all the chicken chasing. Keep it light. If you mention the signs, maybe mention that you felt like you should let her know it was only because of the chickens that you put the fence up, and you hoped she hadn't felt like you were trying to keep anyone out. Maybe too, you could mention that you saw her signs, and just wanted to be sure that in CASE one of your chickens is smarter than the fence, would she mind you entering her yard to fetch them like you did the year before?

Niceness among neighbors, (even forced) is better than none. Better to clear the air without pointing fingers than to let her get the best of you, IMO.
 
I agree with those who suggested taking her something, be it eggs or something sweet like pie or cake, or cookies. What's that saying?...you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. A little friendliness goes a long way. And if that doesn't work for some strange reason, well...you gave it your best shot and you will be at a higher level than she is.
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Do not bother taking something over--this is a clear the ice visit, not a sociable one.

Simply go over there and asy you noticed the signs and want to know if there is a problem. Mention that you are hoping the new fence will keep the chickens from wandering out of your yard. Of course, it would have been neighborly to tell her ahead of time that you were planning to put up a fence between your yards. She might even have offered to pay half the cost.

However, I don't understand the photo--if the house straight ahead is your house, if looks like it is on the other side of the fence from the chickens, and like there is no fence between your houses.
 

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